u all think ur 2 sick, the reality is that ive made 11k in 2 days so u think im going to indulge u spastics any further in ur gay 2+2 antics, id rather go drop 3k in maddox, l8r
u all think ur 2 sick, the reality is that ive made 11k in 2 days so u think im going to indulge u spastics any further in ur gay 2+2 antics, id rather go drop 3k in maddox, l8r
well i think betting 60-70 is actually worse then shoving
for me it would go:
Bet small>>Check>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Shove>>>>>>>>>>Bet 1/2 or 3/4 Pot
Small to induce right? So like 1/6-1/4 pot? Your still allowing him to make a correct play by folding (granted he can open folded but lets be realistic) Checking seems best unless your certain he will spazz over a weak bet. IME more players donk shove turn here when flop gets checked back nstead of crai spazzing
I think the crucial point here is actually how often he is 3 betting, if for example he is 3 betting like 2% of hands then never folding to 4bets doesnt justify 4 betting a range larger than villain's 3 bet distribution.
..if however villain is 3betting relentlessly which i assume is the case then this is a great spot to 4 bet and overbet shove the flop. You gain massive EV from villain calling overbets and shoves as an underdog, i strongly disagree with those that believe this isn't a good play, it is perhaps a higher variance play but one that is very credible.
The gap concept does not apply given the likely metagame of this match, villain could easily be calling a weaker ace on this board, its so unlikely he is flatting a large 4 bet w ak, the possibilities of villains range are heavily weighted towards weaker aces (although aa some of the time in my experience) all of which he is probably calling a shove w due to metagame. All in all, i like this line in this particular situation.
This might just be me but I haven't heard anyone talk about the gap concept since I read HOH 3 years ago.
Small to induce right? So like 1/6-1/4 pot? Your still allowing him to make a correct play by folding (granted he can open folded but lets be realistic) Checking seems best unless your certain he will spazz over a weak bet. IME more players donk shove turn here when flop gets checked back nstead of crai spazzing
Often when playing overly aggro players, a small bet like that will induce a bluff more than checking would
