$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
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Stacks:
SB justcall8100 ($607.19)
BB lemay002 ($280.72)

Pre-Flop: ($3, 2 players) lemay002 is BB 7 7
justcall8100 raises to $6, lemay002 calls $4

Flop: 8 J 7 ($12, 2 players)
lemay002 checks, justcall8100 bets $8.41, lemay002 raises to $24, justcall8100 calls $15.59

Turn: 3 ($60, 2 players)
lemay002 bets $40, justcall8100 calls $40

River: 5 ($140, 2 players)

Final Pot: $140

vilain is really aggro, bet? how much? I think he is capable of turning marginal made hands into a blof.

Reads are that he is not terrible but making all of his decisions really quick in general

66/55
cbet 74 64 67
fold to raise cbet 20

If you are planning on calling a ship, then ship. He will more often call with marginal hands then turn them into a bluff if you check

Bet/call a size that makes him feel he could bluffjam.

Meh don't like the overbet jam toncizlatar. He can't have that much air here so i don't think most villains would call an overbet jam on this type of board/hand.

I'd probably raise a bit more on the flop i think. Not sure on river size for betting though, but probably a decent amount unless i thought he was spazzy enough and i'd bet 1/4 of eff stacks or smth ridic.

didnt saw that they are deep, so i would c/r bigger and bet turn bigger and easy ship on river.
betting 1/4 pot or so is retarded if we are calling a ship because we lose value, and when we are pushed allin we are good just like 10% of the time, no matter what kind of opponent we are playing against

Yeah i don't like to bet that amount as we def lose value vs most people. But OP thinks this villain is capable of turning the marginal hands into bluffs so you have to try and sell FE if you think he's spazzy enough (maybe 1/4 eff is too low though ofc). But, i'd need strong reads for that as i think he'll still call those marginal hands to a stronger bet some of the time anyway....

i think that villian who will rather turn some made hands into a bluff here when we bet really small, than call with them when we bet small dont exist.

Make flop 32 and turn 68. Your sizing is really bad.

I agree, river decision ? Nice ninja edit btw, you had me slightly confused.

i wold of raise to like 30 here. he has a bunch of draws here and pairs witha draw type hand. And id bet big on the turn as he will hold on with top pair. I think he has a pair here i dont think hes turning top pair into a bluff. But that river is a club and its going to put some scare into him calling. So you need to give him good odds heres. hes never going to bluff this river because a flush draw is in your range. id be like 60 on the river. he will call with top pair for that price. Unless hes a fish whos snap calling with top pair then you can go for like 100 on the river.

this, i'd make it like 45 OTR, allows him to call with some hands and jam with some others.

I'd bet 70 on the river. I think it can bluff induce and extract max value from decent holdings.

bet more on turn.

Well you are ahead of his overall turn calling range here on the river, even with the flushes. I say this because most guys still have all of the pair + gutters, he *might* have 2 pairs though probably not since they raise sooner, he certainly has all jacks (this is a TON of combos) and over pairs.

Even though this river is lousy you shouldn't be feeling that bad about your hand. Yeah, against some guys you have to fold here but those guys are pretty rare - and this isn't one of them. For this to be a fold he has to not really turn weak made hands into a bluff (like second pair with a gutter), he has to never value shove thin (say with AJ) and basically he just has to be the type of guy that *always* has it when they bet here. Not only does all of that have to be true but he also has to be the type of guy to make a lot of hero folds - ie you just don't think you're getting value from top pair all that often. But basically against this guy I don't really consider check fold an option. So at least we've discounted that option.

Anyways that leaves us with the question, "should we shove or should we check call?" How you should approach that question depends a lot on your opponent. Against a fish (ie someone that isn't thinking about the game more than own their and maybe your cards) you should be asking the basic question, "Do I think this guy folds top pair a lot to a shove here?" And consequently, against a fish, the answer is basically no.

Against a better player - and it is unclear from your post what you think about this guy - you have to ask a lot more questions (depending on what you think he is thinking about). The most important question to ask in this spot is, "Well how often can I ever really have a bluff here?" This is really important because the way the board ran off it really is tough for you to have air on that river besides firing 79 type hands 3 times as a semibluff or say back door diamonds. Thus, against a good opponent I'd say that there simply isn't value in a shove. However if you think your opponent is quite good and is really thinking about these things then perhaps you can discount this concept a bit. This is because you'll be mixing up when you're value betting or bluffing in an "obvious" spot to further confuse him (or really just playing closer to game theory optimal). There are a lot more questions you could ask yourself when deciding to check call versus shove as well but I am basically too lazy to get into them.

TLDR: Against a fish and a very good player I would shove. Against a mediocre to good player I would check call. I'd adjust this depending on specific reads about the opponent and the flow of the match. Against a nit I'd just check fold (expecting it to check through way more often than not).

bet sizing is wrong, make flop bigger so we can bet turn bigger and get more moniez in otr. As played just c/decide.

ch/f, you really think he bets anything worse than a flush on the river? And you look mega strong if you bet this river since you can have flushes a lot as well as sets and don't have a ton of bluffs in your range. I also think pre is too small, I prob make it 10-12 with this particular hand. You don't really want to see a flop.