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07-21-2010 , 05:23 PM
we are 3 tabling and I'm up a little, although he just stacked me at one of the tables. We are both fearless 3 betting a lot and very bluffy. This is so gross.

Here's the hand he stacked me..

Full Tilt Poker $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players - View hand 815224
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BTN/SB: $1900.00
Hero (BB): $4423.00

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is BB with Q A
BTN/SB raises to $20, Hero raises to $60, BTN/SB raises to $180, Hero calls $120

Flop: ($360.00) A 8 J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $220, Hero calls $220

Turn: ($800.00) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $485, Hero calls $485

River: ($1770.00) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $1015 all in, Hero calls $1015

Final Pot: $3800.00
BTN/SB shows K A (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
BTN/SB wins $3799.50
(Rake: $0.50)



Full Tilt Poker $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players - View hand 815209
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Hero (BB): $2773.50
BTN/SB: $1591.50

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is BB with 6 3
BTN/SB raises to $20, Hero calls $10

Flop: ($40.00) T 3 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $30, Hero raises to $90, BTN/SB calls $60

Turn: ($220.00) J (2 players)
Hero bets $130, BTN/SB calls $130

River: ($480.00) A (2 players)
Hero bets $370, BTN/SB raises to $1351.50 all in

Last edited by People_Mover; 07-21-2010 at 05:38 PM.
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07-21-2010 , 05:25 PM
Seems like a call, I think there's a small chance he could be value cutting himself and this is a great spot for him to rebluff you.
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07-21-2010 , 05:26 PM
woowwwwwwwwwwoqidjwifdj240fjwnf0439ijfmniskefjsdfw emjfoisejf fold
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07-21-2010 , 05:32 PM
rofl at valuecutting himself
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07-21-2010 , 05:35 PM
Epic contribution bro
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07-21-2010 , 05:35 PM
Given the match dynamic it's a pretty easy call (though not necessarily a pleasant one). If you're beat, you're beat. He could easily have KQ with here or just be spaz bluffing with 65. Against a tighter player you can fold comfortably here IMO but in this sort of match it's just a massive cooler if you're beat.

I'm guessing he showed a higher flush and that's why you posted?
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07-21-2010 , 05:42 PM
err if i am playing well i can find a fold. (99,5% of the time id snap call lol)
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07-21-2010 , 05:45 PM
doesnt really seem like he'd expect you to be value betting this river particularly thin given the way the board ran out so i'd probably fold
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07-21-2010 , 05:56 PM
cant c him shoving this river as a bluff it would be so fkng spew cuz were gonna have so many hi flushes ourselves given our line
and we almost always have a flush here
does he expect us to fold a flush?


fold fold fold
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07-21-2010 , 05:57 PM
it's a pretty sick match still going if anyone wants to sweat it lol
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07-21-2010 , 05:59 PM
Sup with the turn barrel sizing?
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07-21-2010 , 05:59 PM
you have $600 in the pot after you bet the river and its another $1000 to call.

you are getting reasonable odds to call and you have a flush heads up, i never fold.
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07-21-2010 , 06:06 PM
Does he expect you to reraise Axdd Kxdd on flop? whats the worst flush hes shoving for value realistically? I like a bigger bet on turn though I guess you bet that size for a reason to balance your Txs or something but I'd personally bet like 160-180.
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07-21-2010 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bubonicplay
you have $600 in the pot after you bet the river and its another $1000 to call.

you are getting reasonable odds to call and you have a flush heads up, i never fold.
just cause u have the odds to call doesn't mean you should
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07-21-2010 , 06:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bubonicplay
you have $600 in the pot after you bet the river and its another $1000 to call.

you are getting reasonable odds to call and you have a flush heads up, i never fold.
lol what good will it do you to be getting even 100:1 if you are always beat
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07-21-2010 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dwmartin
lol what good will it do you to be getting even 100:1 if you are always beat
and you have a flush heads up, i never fold this is why lolz.

imo by the description of the game style rly agro etc it sways me towards a call, meh its kinda gross, if he can put u on like A10 here and think u can fold then its snappidy imo !
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07-21-2010 , 06:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by People_Mover
just cause u have the odds to call doesn't mean you should
whaaaa?

edit: meh, never mind you probably just misworded it
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07-21-2010 , 06:37 PM
i guess the real question here is, who folds in this spot?

i think this a definitley a call, but if someone disaggrees then please explain.
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07-21-2010 , 06:45 PM
basically he has a better hand or some random bluff (i dont think he jams worse) so if u dont think he has a bluffin range here then its a fold!
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07-21-2010 , 07:19 PM
post reads please...aggro bluffy match doesn't tell us nearly enough.

stats?
noteworthy hands? (not sure how the AK/AQ hand is relevant)
is he competent? if so how good is he?
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07-21-2010 , 07:25 PM
LOL yes. fold a 2 card flush on non paired board HU.
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07-21-2010 , 11:59 PM
Spoiler:

He has the nut flush or a boat 100% of the time
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07-22-2010 , 12:00 AM
post more reads once ur done playing, no way we can answer this without a little insight into how he thinks. against most ppl i'd fold but i dont play regs this high so not rly sure
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07-22-2010 , 01:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IDonkDryFlops
Spoiler:

He has the nut flush or a boat 100% of the time
I'd wager he has a boat about 0% of the time
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07-22-2010 , 01:15 AM
glad i dont play poker anymore, i'd have shipped on both hands
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