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Old 01-31-2012, 06:03 PM   #1
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100nl: River decision: shove Q-high???

Reads: Villain is a weak-passive, semi-tight bluffy and non-thinking fish who tries to take down pots here and there with small bets or minraises over my bets on the flop and turn but gives up on the river. I caught him twice doing that with complete junk.

In the hand below, he is never value-leading here imo, plus it's an overbet so I decide to float with an intention to take it away on later streets. Also, I have a gutshot straight draw as well. His small turn bet is kind of scary and non-scary both, I don't know what you guys think of that. But as I figured, he gave up on the river and now the decision is up to me whether to check back or shove??? I like a shove more because he could easily have K-hi here. I strongly rep trip 10s and he reps nothing and I don't think he'd hero-call if I were to shove.

[converted_hand][hand_history]IPoker, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11755812

BB: $52.19 (52.2 bb)
Hero (SB): $106.90 (106.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 Q
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6) T 8 T (2 players)
BB bets $7, Hero calls $7

Turn: ($20) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $10, Hero calls $10

River: ($40) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero ???

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Old 02-01-2012, 01:44 PM   #2
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Re: 100nl: River decision: shove Q-high???

Well you can rep pretty much any value combo but the problem is that non-thinking fishes don't think thus he is likely to snap you with an 8 or even worse.
Don't really expect you Q-high to be good here but that may happen sometimes.

In general i may fold the flop with 50bb stacks just because you don't really have enough room for plays nor you have much of implied odds if you hit.

With stacks like these you can even consider shipping the flop if you're not afraid to face some variance, the move is kinda transparent but that is not a big problem vs fish and given that he almost never has a T when you do get called you will be like 40/60 dog which is not fatal considering he may call you with worse draws and all your overcards play against a random 8.
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Old 02-01-2012, 10:18 PM   #3
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Re: 100nl: River decision: shove Q-high???

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Well you can rep pretty much any value combo but the problem is that non-thinking fishes don't think thus he is likely to snap you with an 8 or even worse.
Don't really expect you Q-high to be good here but that may happen sometimes.

In general i may fold the flop with 50bb stacks just because you don't really have enough room for plays nor you have much of implied odds if you hit.

With stacks like these you can even consider shipping the flop if you're not afraid to face some variance, the move is kinda transparent but that is not a big problem vs fish and given that he almost never has a T when you do get called you will be like 40/60 dog which is not fatal considering he may call you with worse draws and all your overcards play against a random 8.
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