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12-27-2016 , 06:17 AM
Have I overly polarised my range here? My value combo's are pretty much top set and J9s. Would I therefore be better off betting just udner half pot so that I rep a much wider value range, AQ,AA,KK, 2 pair and sets?

iPoker - £0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 152.78 BB
BB: 147.98 BB (VPIP: 23.17, PFR: 17.51, 3Bet Preflop: 4.83, Hands: 1,007)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K J

Hero raises to 2 BB, BB raises to 8 BB, Hero raises to 18 BB, BB calls 10 BB

Flop: (36 BB, 2 players) T 5 3
BB checks, Hero bets 12 BB, BB calls 12 BB

Turn: (60 BB, 2 players) Q
BB checks, Hero bets 24 BB, BB calls 24 BB

River: (108 BB, 2 players) 8
BB checks, Hero bets 96 BB, BB calls 93.98 BB

Hero shows K J (High Card, King)
(Pre 45%, Flop 26%, Turn 27%)
BB shows 9 9 (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 55%, Flop 74%, Turn 73%)
Hero wins 2.02 BB
BB wins 293.96 BB
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12-27-2016 , 12:33 PM
You're only betting pot with top set and J9 in this spot? Instead of reducing the sizing I would go potsize with a bigger value range so include any set and two pair and a few combinations of KK/AA. AQ blocks too many of his bluff catchers probably to add in. The reason for going so "wide' is that he hardly has any hands to call you down with and has to resort to hands like 99 to get to showdown. Abuse that by betting wider for value so you can actually pull these bluffs.

If you're bluffing KJo here then that's already 12 combinations vs 6 value combinations that you say you have, let alone any other hands you add as bluffs.
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12-27-2016 , 09:39 PM
kj plays much better as a call than 4bet, but you can mix it in sometimes, rest seems fine, mb with some cosmetic bet sizing adjustments
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01-03-2017 , 11:32 AM
I find I get called light on TJx and TQx boards by weaker players who you guessed it put you on AK.


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01-05-2017 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
You're only betting pot with top set and J9 in this spot? Instead of reducing the sizing I would go potsize with a bigger value range so include any set and two pair and a few combinations of KK/AA. AQ blocks too many of his bluff catchers probably to add in. The reason for going so "wide' is that he hardly has any hands to call you down with and has to resort to hands like 99 to get to showdown. Abuse that by betting wider for value so you can actually pull these bluffs.

If you're bluffing KJo here then that's already 12 combinations vs 6 value combinations that you say you have, let alone any other hands you add as bluffs.

Agree. Add more value combos with that sizing.


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01-05-2017 , 10:25 AM
don't 4bet KJo vs a 5% 3bet over 1k hands guy (if these stats are correct), 4bet bigger, rest looks fine. don't be a nit on rivers in 4bet pots
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01-06-2017 , 05:50 PM
yeah, first thing that stood out to me was the 4 bet. His 3 bet is pretty big, you'll want to have some stronger hands in your 3 bet calling range. Also, your hand plays so much better against his likely 3 bet range than the range he calls a 4 bet with. I guess the sizing is OK in position but I think I'd go just a bit larger with the hands I'm gonna 4 bet pre (it's gonna be a polarized range, right, since you are in position?)
If you are going to use KJ as a 4 bet (obviously this is gonna be a depolarized 4 bet range) then I do think you picked a good sizing for that type of range but I'd only use that kind of plan if i know my opponent is calling A LOT of his 3 bet range and is like never 5 betting light. I'd also like him to not have such a small 3 bet %.

Now, post flop, I don't think your range looks polarized whatsoever.
You can have TPTK, top set, second set, KK, AA, and maybe some J9 (depending on your 4 bet range construction).

I think your range looks very strong and your line is consistent and I like the hand KJ as a bluff for sure, you have no SDV, you block J9, and honestly your doub was super obv and so you are going to get to this spot with KJ often enough that you should seriously consider it's existence when constructing your bluff range and maybe kind of "build around it".. like start with full combos of KJ (IF YOU 4 bet it) and then add in whatever other hands you need for balance.

If I am villain I'm def folding 99 at some point. He just got sticky with third pair for no good reason IMO.

I like flatting the 3 bet pre, beyond that I think your line looks pretty straight forward and good.

nh
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01-13-2017 , 02:26 PM
I 3x it preflop as default and I think 2x allows the big blind to defend profitably much too often with a very wide range. As played I would definitely not 4 bet preflop but instead I'd call the 3 bet.

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If I am villain I'm def folding 99 at some point. He just got sticky with third pair for no good reason IMO.
Vs an opponent that miniraises and 4 bets KJo preflop and likes to spew postflop as evidenced by this op? It's much more than just a bit likely that the guy thinks op is a spewbot and will be both bluffing a lot and value betting worse a lot postflop thus 99 is unfoldable here imo.
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01-18-2017 , 05:58 PM
Unless you and V have history, 4betting KJo gets you into trouble like this a lot. There's your biggest mistake.

Rest of the hand, pretty clear he had a middling pair. They call down HU there a lot. You need specific reads on V before you triple-barrel with air like that.
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