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Old 02-07-2012, 06:14 PM   #16
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No reason to debate semantics. I think it is obvious that my statement indicates caring about participating in a Federally regulated interstate market limited to peer to peer poker.

Do you really think the MA state lottery, or any state lottery for that matter, is going to be leaping at the chance to create an online poker-only site to compete with WSOP.com, MGM.com, and others IF a Federal bill passes?

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If they dont have a way to participate then I think they will work very hard to make sure that WSOP.com and MGM.com arent present in their state competing for gambling dollars.
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Old 02-08-2012, 12:36 PM   #17
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No reason to debate semantics. I think it is obvious that my statement indicates caring about participating in a Federally regulated interstate market limited to peer to peer poker.

Do you really think the MA state lottery, or any state lottery for that matter, is going to be leaping at the chance to create an online poker-only site to compete with WSOP.com, MGM.com, and others IF a Federal bill passes?

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Forgive my ignorance, but if a Fed bill allows online poker - states can still ban it correct? I don't believe there is any form of gambling in the US that is not controlled, regulated and taxed at the state level. I just don't see states giving up all that potential revenue to Nevada or Nevada based companies.
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Old 02-08-2012, 12:58 PM   #18
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The current framework would allow states to either opt-out or opt-in (still unclear) to/of a Federal licensing scheme. The state would get a percentage of the revenue if they are part of the scheme.
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:56 PM   #19
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I thought the current framework was set up so states were already in and had to opt-out if they did not want to be a part of it?
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:36 PM   #20
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I thought the current framework was set up so states were already in and had to opt-out if they did not want to be a part of it?
What is the "current framework"? If you are specifically referring to the bill proposed by Barton, yes, that bill, as currently written, would require states to explicitly opt-out; by default, they would be in. But the bill hasn't even got out of the primary sub-committee it has been assigned to. If it did, then it would be possibly be marked up, and it could wind up being changed to being "opt-in" (meaning that states would by out by default, and would have to explicitly opt-in).
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Old 02-22-2012, 10:31 AM   #21
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Re: MA Online Gaming Being Considered

Sent message through treasury page and posted on his FB wall. Any chance they might be waiting for the B&M licenses to be sold before looking into the online aspect of it?
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Old 02-22-2012, 02:44 PM   #22
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I don't see Mass even considering Igaming seriously until it's casinos are up and running. The only potential is if the state grants both B&M and online gaming licenses simultaneously.
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Old 02-23-2012, 02:42 AM   #23
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http://bostonherald.com/news/regiona...ls_online_bets

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State Rep. Daniel Winslow, a Norfolk Republican who’s on Grossman’s task force, likes the idea.

He believes plenty of consumers already gamble online via risky websites based outside U.S. borders.

“People who want to gamble online can already find a way to do it,” Winslow said. “The concerning thing to me is that (current online gambling) is not regulated and there are no (state) revenues from it.”
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Old 02-23-2012, 10:34 AM   #24
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WTF?!?!?!?!?! I only see video poker mentioned! Is this guy really not making the difference!!
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Old 02-23-2012, 03:18 PM   #25
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WTF?!?!?!?!?! I only see video poker mentioned! Is this guy really not making the difference!!
A lot of people don't, including some of our Congresscritters.
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Old 02-23-2012, 03:28 PM   #26
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I posted on his FB wall to clarify the difference. Is the PPA going to offer input regarding this? (does the PPA not have a Mass rep?) I don't know what the timeline is but would love to know some more detail.
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Old 02-23-2012, 03:52 PM   #27
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WTF?!?!?!?!?! I only see video poker mentioned! Is this guy really not making the difference!!
Yup, better cut for the state I assume.

Then he will push very, very hard to make sure MA opts out of a Federal scheme and, IMO, he'll win pretty easily.
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Old 02-23-2012, 03:59 PM   #28
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Every state will use opt out to bargain for the best possible deal. Nevada won't have the monopoly on Ipoker.
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WTF?!?!?!?!?! I only see video poker mentioned! Is this guy really not making the difference!!
I saw this bit of wisdom today (h/t to @taxdood):

Gambling Your Own [Honolulu Weekly]
... the League of Women Voters testified that the projected number of casino jobs for locals is unrealistic. “You don’t need anybody in front of the slot machine to make it work,” ...
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Old 02-23-2012, 04:15 PM   #30
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lol omg ... smh, women though (plz no sexist ban )

I still don't know what is going on in that article. Wether they are using the wrong terminology or mixing them up. I emailed the the guy who published the article to see if he could clear this up. Literally within the first two sentences they refer to both:
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A blue-chip commission convened this month to study whether the Massachusetts State Lottery should get into online gambling plans to weigh video poker as one key option. “I think we’ve got an obligation to the people of the commonwealth to study the whole basket of (Internet gaming options) — including online poker,”
So which one is it?!?!?!?
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