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Old 10-29-2011, 03:39 PM   #1
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Jack Abramoff's New Book"Capitol Punishment The Hard Truth About Washington"

Jack Abramoff's New Book"Capitol Punishment The Hard Truth About Washington"

http://superstore.wnd.com/books/WND-...ment-Hardcover

For those of you who don't know Jack Abramoff, he is was the most famous lobbyist of all time. He served 3 1/2 years in prison for fraud, tax evasion, and conspiracy to commit bribery. 21 people have plead guilty or found guilty since the probe started. The reason I'm making this thread is that Jack was the most famous and high paid casino lobbyist. He and his partners fleeced the Indian Tribes out of millions of dollars in attorney fees and campaign contributions. I feel Jack Abramoff is more relevant now than ever with the Full Tilt Poker scandal and the 3 major sites being shut down it the USA. I say this with confidence after spending 100's of man hours investigating Congress, Lobbyist, DOJ, and the the current B&M casino monopoly.

The term "Gimme Five" was coined by Jack Abramoff and his partner Michael Scanlon for their bilking of clients. They conspired to lobby against their own clients to shut them down in order to charge them enormous fees to get them opened up again. They would also charge money to start "astro-turf" "grass roots" movements (similar to Fair Play USA) to reopen them. They also used Focus on Family to sway congress to shut down the tribes Casinos and then reversing the campaign once they were paid the enormous fees. This same game plan is being used by the AGA and the NFL lobbyist group Covington and Burling today against Full Tilt Poker. The NFL used William Wichterman http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...111102935.html to manipulate Focus on Family just as Abramoff did.

Casino Jack Trailer
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Casino Jack and the United States of Money Documentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRqvrHw2G2w

Jack was played by Kevin Spacey in the movie "Casino Jack" and was also the subject of a brilliant documentary (although boring in the first 1/2 hour but nevertheless educational) "Casino Jack and the United States of Money". For those of you with money stuck online, please watch these movies and read the book and maybe it will open your eyes to the corruption that is at hand.

I've come to know Mr. Abramoff a little bit over the last 4 months and to me he seems to be humbled by his jail experience. As some of you may know, I;m starting an advocacy group that is anti-lobbyist. I see (from the quotes) that Mr. Abramoff appears to seek change in the current lobbying rules :
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...usaolp00000009
"The reason there are tens of thousands of lobbyists is because the ever-expanding federal government creates ever-increasing opportunities for abuse," he writes. "The more the federal government does, the more lobbyists there will be to protect special interests at the expense of the common interest."

"the lure of post-public service lobbying employment needs to be eliminated," he writes. So: "If you chose to serve in Congress or on a congressional staff, you should be barred for life from working for any company, organization, or association which lobbies the federal government. "

And I would think that the last quote should apply in reverse where if you work for lobbyist group and you should not be able to have high positions like Attorney General. If this were the case we wouldn't have had all of our money frozen by the DOJ because of Eric Holder and his previous employment by Covington and Burling the lobbyist firm that was most instrumental in attaching the UIGEA to the port security bill. http://www.pokerbloggs.com/2011/05/0...d-attach-uigea

I haven't read the book yet but will be ordering it this weekend. I have watched the documentary and movie about him 4 times each. Each time I watch them it opens my eyes to the current situation. The AGA and Ceasars/Wynn has completely stolen from Abramoff's playbook and are getting away with it. Hopefully, the masses on this site will stop being manipulated by the PPA, AGA, and Fair Play and see what is happening. You are all being used to attach laws to your own conduct. Online poker is our right! Regulated or not there will always be cheating.

I plan on chatting a bit more with Mr. Abramoff but I don't know how he will react to this post. It seems to me from those quotes that he sees how he was expendable to protect high officials, and now may be against his own former profession. And if that's not the case, he has seen the hypocricy from the people who he used to contribute to:

"Most of these legislators had taken thousands of dollars from my clients and firms, and now they were sitting as impartial judges against me. Washington hypocrisy at its best,"

I hope to get him on this thread to answer questions, but I can't make any promises.
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Old 10-29-2011, 10:05 PM   #2
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Re: Jack Abramoff's New Book"Capitol Punishment The Hard Truth About Washington"

Does Jack have any specific knowledge about UIGEA or the recent online poker crackdown?
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Old 10-29-2011, 10:22 PM   #3
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U DOAN KNOE JACK!

K THX BAI.
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Old 10-29-2011, 11:50 PM   #4
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Does Jack have any specific knowledge about UIGEA or the recent online poker crackdown?
Only stuff I've told him unless he knows much more and just isn't talking. Remember, when he was in hearings, they brought out all of his emails. So he's probably email shy.

He was at law firm at same time as Jeff Ifrah Ftp 's attorney.
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thanks for bringing this guy and the documentary to our attention, i'm definitely going to watch it.
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Old 11-01-2011, 04:06 PM   #6
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thanks for bringing this guy and the documentary to our attention, i'm definitely going to watch it.
Your welcome! If thread gets enough attention I will email him and see if he will answer questions.
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Old 11-02-2011, 09:11 AM   #7
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I didn't know he wrote a book. I'm going to check it out. I'd love to ask him a few questions although I'd need time to think of well thought out ones.
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Old 11-02-2011, 01:31 PM   #8
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I didn't know he wrote a book. I'm going to check it out. I'd love to ask him a few questions although I'd need time to think of well thought out ones.
Put together list of questions and I'll present them to him. I talk to him about once or twice a month. Place them in the thread and I'll filter through everyone's questions and send them to him. No guarantees or anything.
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Dope thread would love to hear his opinions on current online poker matters going on behind the scenes in washington.
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Corrupt Lobbyist has plan to stop Corrupt Lobbying! Sounds foolproof!

Seriously why'd you put this in the leg forum has nothing to do with poker legislation.
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Corrupt Lobbyist has plan to stop Corrupt Lobbying! Sounds foolproof!

Seriously why'd you put this in the leg forum has nothing to do with poker legislation.
Mod moved it here.

Lobbyist have nothing to do with legislation? Especially the most famous casino lobbyist. His tactic are more relevant than ever :
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/57...mbling-761218/
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Old 11-03-2011, 05:26 PM   #12
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Ok I'll buy learning more about the process with lobbyists is relevant, albeit indirectly. Carry on...
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Corrupt Lobbyist has plan to stop Corrupt Lobbying! Sounds foolproof!
Frank Abagnale.
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Put together list of questions and I'll present them to him. I talk to him about once or twice a month. Place them in the thread and I'll filter through everyone's questions and send them to him. No guarantees or anything.
How do we contact him?

Who do we pay to get regulated ipoker ASAP?

Will he consider working for the PPA?
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Corrupt Lobbyist has plan to stop Corrupt Lobbying! Sounds foolproof!
Jose Canseco, Daniel Tzvetkoff, and Frank Abagnale Jr. all say hi.

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