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Old 08-24-2009, 01:21 PM   #16
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Re: Getting screwed by Full Tilt and no recourse

Don't know what to tell you, but if you haven't done anything wrong I'm sure you'll get your money. Hang in there.
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Old 08-24-2009, 01:50 PM   #17
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1) Typically I react the same because because most of the time that is the case, at least people who post about it here or in the zoo.
I'm sure this is a dumb question from a noob, but what is the zoo? NVG?
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Old 08-24-2009, 01:52 PM   #18
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Don't know what to tell you, but if you haven't done anything wrong I'm sure you'll get your money. Hang in there.
Thanks for the encouraging words. Guess I'll have to take the zen approach. But it's killing me...I'm on an overnight right now in Livorno Italy with nothing to do. Free internet at the hotel and tables are calling....

I'm reduced to surfing 2+2...lol!!
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Old 08-24-2009, 02:15 PM   #19
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Sounds like a great job, being able to fly to a bunch of different countries and getting paid to do it.

Anyway, if you haven't done anything wrong I'm sure they'll come to that conclusion and give you your money back soon enough. Sucks that you have to wait, though.

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Old 08-24-2009, 03:08 PM   #20
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Thanks for the encouraging words. Guess I'll have to take the zen approach. But it's killing me...I'm on an overnight right now in Livorno Italy with nothing to do. Free internet at the hotel and tables are calling....

I'm reduced to surfing 2+2...lol!!
You might want to use all that extra time on you hands to open an account at PokerStars. They haven't banned you, too, have they?
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Old 08-24-2009, 03:13 PM   #21
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Sounds like a great job, being able to fly to a bunch of different countries and getting paid to do it.
If you have a job you love, it's like you never work a day in your life. That's exactly how I feel...on a perpetual vacation.

Breaking news on this case...

I got an email from FTP saying that the offending user played from my primary PC and that I've made several transfers to him.

My first thought was "no way!", but then I thought harder and realized that last November I went on a golf trip to Florida with about 2 dozen guys. I stayed in a condo with my brother and 2 friends. I let my brother play a SNG using my laptop and, yes, I have transferred funds to him many times (amounts of about $10 each time; total couldn't have been over $200) but not once in 2009.

Anyway, he won that SNG with me coaching him and that's the last contact I had with my brother on poker. He was a horrible player (check boxmna911 on Sharkscope) and ultimately stopped playing; I never asked him why...just thought it was a good idea for him to quit.

I sent him the FTP email and I'm waiting for a response, wondering wtf he did. I never knew him to try collusion or any other cheat, so I'm really wondering what this could be.

I sent a response to FullTilt asking if he is, in fact, the offending account and saying I might have some influence in getting him to rectify whatever it is he did. If they can't confirm that he is the problem, then I'm left with no alternative but to take my money and find another place to play, assuming that I'm not blackballed on every other site.

So to all you who were sure I was guilty, I guess you were right in a way. I must now suffer for the sins of my brother (whatever the hell they are).
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Old 08-24-2009, 03:17 PM   #22
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I'm sure this is a dumb question from a noob, but what is the zoo? NVG?
The Zoo is the internet poker forum found here:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/

Usually most online poker posts and ?'s go there. I wouldn't post this there yet, wait until you find out what FT does after their investigation. If you post this in the zoo you will get flamed by many. Some will just assume you did something wrong on FT and others like on this forum will wait to see what FT does in the end. Someone starts a post in the zoo 1 or 2 times a week about an online poker site closing their account and/or seizing their money. Go read some of the other posts in the zoo but I would hold off on starting a thread until FT is done with the investigation.

I hope it all works out for you in the end, It sometimes takes FT a while to finish the investigation GL.
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Old 08-24-2009, 03:18 PM   #23
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Is it possible he bounced a check and didn't pay them? That is the most likely case.
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Old 08-24-2009, 03:45 PM   #24
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Is it possible he bounced a check and didn't pay them? That is the most likely case.
I guess it's possible (though it would surprise me), but I'm really curious to get to the bottom of this. I don't know if FTP will even verify that he's the problem.
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Old 08-24-2009, 04:29 PM   #25
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I guess it's possible (though it would surprise me), but I'm really curious to get to the bottom of this. I don't know if FTP will even verify that he's the problem.
Most of the time they never tell you what the prob is. When they finish the investigation they either open your account back and allow you to play or they find something say to bad your account is closed and depending on what they think you did, may/may not return your funds.
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Old 08-24-2009, 05:08 PM   #26
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I'm sure this is a dumb question from a noob, but what is the zoo? NVG?
The name commonly used to refer to the 2+2 'internet poker' forum. Look around there a bit and you'll understand why.
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Old 08-24-2009, 05:19 PM   #27
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I'm glad I've held the line on letting anyone play from my computer. (I think.) Hope it works out.
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Old 08-24-2009, 05:26 PM   #28
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In the meantime I guess you're left with the age old timekiller of chasing flight attendants. Hope it works out. I'd be interested in hearing what happens.
Are you referring to the chasing endeavour or the FTP issue?

(nevermind, asked and answered). Go ahead and tell the story about Kiev, though! I think we'd all get a kick out of it...

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Old 08-24-2009, 06:38 PM   #29
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I'm glad I've held the line on letting anyone play from my computer. (I think.) Hope it works out.
You are a wise man BigAIK. I was blithely ignorant and innocent.
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