So all of us with balances in our eWalletXpress accounts had it all seized in November 2010 according to the liars at eWalletXpress, which is owned by parent company, Navaho Networks. We have not heard a peep about our accounts since.

I have thoroughly reviewed the seizure requests and indictments from both Black Friday and Blue Monday, and I cannot find anything that appears to relate to EWX or Navaho. So who seized their bank accounts and when will we hear more?? Could it be a sign of more indictments to come? Why would EWX have been seized 8 months ago, with no word since...yet UseMyWallet gets seized only two weeks before the indictments hit?

When was the last time you wrote eWalletXpress?

I send emails to their support@ and payouts@ addresses about once a month. Since November, I have received zero responses. I am already fairly certain all the money is gone forever, but I'd still like to know which seizures these are a part of, because they sure has not turned up yet.

I would write to the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York, the US Attorney for the Eastern District of Missouri and the US Attorney for the District of Maryland seeking information. The attorney in Missouri seems to have been involved in past seizure cases and the other two attorneys have been involved in recent seizures.

Whatever happened with ePassporte funds as well?

From the PPA: "cease-and-desist orders against ePassporte"

I don't ever recall an indictment for ePassporte or ewalletxpress

Were there indictments for every previous seizure of funds? I had thought many of them were simply uncontested and only because a judge granted a seizure warrant. The sites then made the players whole so no one followed it up and it was solely a money grab.

IMO this seems to be the feds thinking as well. There have been no provisions set up for players to make claim of their money in both ewalletexpress and UMW/QT and I wonder if the feds thought they were simply going to take the money and that's it.

Here's a disturbing response from the UMW thread where the players have decided to make claim of their money and at first some of the agents involved where sympathetic and were going to "try and get to the bottom of it" as players were contacting them, but now that's turned into a nasty tune in at least one case.

A quote that is like watching a train wreck happen in front of your eyes

From June 9, 2009 PPA:

"Your money is safe at the major poker sites. I cannot speak for all the poker sites, but several have assured me that your money is safe and secure; however you should check with whatever site you play on. In most instances the poker sites have a procedure in which they segregate player funds, your assets and not theirs, and keep them in bank accounts that are completely separate from their operating funds – in fact, player accounts are kept in different banks."

ePassporte was never charged. It was threatened and it ceased doing business with poker players. It also returned all the money to anyone who asked for it.

The quote in LT22's post above is clearly correct with respect to PokerStars. And PokerStars has paid everyone back.

In 2009, which was just the beginning of the DOJ pursuit of payment processors, I think most believed FTP followed a similar policy regarding player funds. That FTP at some point did not keep player funds fully segregated is now all to painfully obvious and FTP players are paying the price. I don't think anyone expected this of too many other sites, so checking with the sites specifically was a good thing to suggest.

I do not know the details regarding ewalletexpress. I do know that it is impossible for the Feds to seize money without some form of judicial process being put in place. The process does not necessarily have to be an indictment.

Skallagrim

FWIW, I just talked to the rather lame EWxpress 'customer service' rep. No news, obviously, but the fact that they still have a manned phone line might mean something.

I have done a little more research and the only source for the funds being seized seems to be eWalletXpress itself. Except for the phone line being manned, it almost seems like someone within the company walked off with the funds and ewxp decided to blame the government.

A call to the authorities is definitely in order.

Skall,

care to make a comment about this post re:Quicktender/UMW?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1023

I really don't know much about the issues with all these ewallets. However, from reviewing all the posts and reading some of the articles, IMO, some, if not all, of these ewallets may be simply ceasing business and absconding with customer funds and blaming a DOJ seizure which never actually occurred.

IMO, FT and Cereus may be using the DOJ seizure of their accounts by vastly overstating the amount of funds that the DOJ actually seized.

How much did FTP and Cereus say was seized, respectively?

This is a possibility. I'm just glad we are at least looking at these issues to try and find out what is the truth, because if it's not this, then it has all kinds of implications. If it is this, then we at least know who to go after. The how we do that will have to be figured out as well though, in either case.

No one, including the DOJ, has actually stated how much was seized and from whom. No online poker entity has presented actual figures with any proof; just lots of claims like the DOJ seized all our former US players money. If the DIJ really seized so much then how come PS quickly paid its former US players?

I don't know and I just don't believe all the common hype, assumptions and theories which too often are presented as facts.