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08-02-2012 , 11:25 PM
Hi Everyone:

I'm proud to announce that 2+2 is endorsing Senator Dean Heller for Senate 2012.

For those who don't know, Senator Heller is the Republican candidate for Senate from the State of Nevada, and this is a race that will have a major impact towards getting successful federal poker legislation. Thus, this Senate race should be of great importance to all US poker players regardless of home state. In the next few days (and weeks), we will be providing more information relative to this endorsement.

Best wishes,
Mason Malmuth
Owner and Publisher
Two Plus Two Interactive LLC
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08-02-2012 , 11:32 PM
Any reason you aren't endorsing Harry Reid also?
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08-02-2012 , 11:36 PM
Yes can we know why?
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08-02-2012 , 11:37 PM
Really? I certainly need a detailed explanation for this. His opponent Shelley Berkley is a pretty staunch supported of online poker as well and was one of only a few that voted against UIGEA.

I know 2+2 is only acting on poker interests, but Heller looks horrific as a candidate on numerous political issues included his disgusting opposition to gay marriage.
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08-02-2012 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by kikadell
Any reason you aren't endorsing Harry Reid also?
Because he's not running for re-election this year?
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08-02-2012 , 11:45 PM
hmmm

endorsed abortion before, but now is pro life (gotta toe that party line)


In 2007 Heller voted against the Employment Non-discrimination Act that would have prohibited employment discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. Heller is opposed to gay marriage

from wiki

why should i vote for this guy again
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08-02-2012 , 11:51 PM
here we go again, sigh.
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08-02-2012 , 11:54 PM
Gogogo Ipoker bill.

Mason, have you met with Heller personally?
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08-03-2012 , 12:00 AM
This Heller guy seems like he is truely evil. I don't care what his stance is on poker... being a good person comes first!
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08-03-2012 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Go Get It
Gogogo Ipoker bill.

Mason, have you met with Heller personally?
Not yet. But we're meeting with the campaign's political director on Monday and hope to meet Senator Heller in the near future.

Best wishes,
Mason
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08-03-2012 , 12:02 AM
Look at what 2+2 endorsements did for Gary Johnson's run for Republican Presidential nomination...


I fail to understand why mason keeps going back to the party that got us into this mess by passing the UIGEA, I hope your endorsement works as well for this guy as it did for the last one.
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08-03-2012 , 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mason Malmuth
Not yet. But we're meeting with the campaign's political director on Monday and hope to meet Senator Heller in the near future.

Best wishes,
Mason
Obv TR when this happens.
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08-03-2012 , 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Really? I certainly need a detailed explanation for this. His opponent Shelley Berkley is a pretty staunch supported of online poker as well and was one of only a few that voted against UIGEA.

I know 2+2 is only acting on poker interests, but Heller looks horrific as a candidate on numerous political issues included his disgusting opposition to gay marriage.
Mason can obviously endorse whoever he wants, but I'd be very interested in why he is better than berkeley from a poker perspective
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08-03-2012 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Really? I certainly need a detailed explanation for this. His opponent Shelley Berkley is a pretty staunch supported of online poker as well and was one of only a few that voted against UIGEA.
MM doesn't play online poker.
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08-03-2012 , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by LetsGambool
Mason can obviously endorse whoever he wants, but I'd be very interested in why he is better than berkeley from a poker perspective
Because poker needs to be passed before Berkley would take office. Hopefully by getting the endorsement from 2+2, Heller will work harder to get the necessary support for the lame duck.
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08-03-2012 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by LetsGambool
Mason can obviously endorse whoever he wants, but I'd be very interested in why he is better than berkeley from a poker perspective
He's not. I would love to hear MM's reasoning.
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08-03-2012 , 12:27 AM
Looking forward to a solid LirvA rant.
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08-03-2012 , 12:29 AM
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/57...006-a-1048432/
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Originally Posted by UIGEA House Testimony: 7/11/2006
Ms. BERKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank Mr. Conyers for his extraordinary efforts on this legislation.

Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong opposition to this legislation. Despite the misinformed and misguided claims of this bill's supporters, it would neither prohibit Internet gaming nor increase enforcement capabilities of the United States Government.

Instead, passing this bill will do the exact opposite. The millions of Americans who currently wager online will continue to use offshore Web sites out of the reach of U.S. law enforcement, and they will remain unprotected by State regulators who ensure the integrity of brick and mortar gaming establishments in this country.

I continue to be astounded by the Members of this body who constantly rail against an intrusive Federal Government; and yet when it comes to gaming, they are the first, the first to call for government intrusion.

A man's home is his castle unless he chooses to participate in online gaming. Then his home is the province of the Federal Government. This bill was recently included on the House Republicans' American Values Agenda.

Which American values is this promoting? It certainly cannot be the right to privacy. It certainly cannot be the right of individuals to be free to make their own decisions about what type of recreation to enjoy. And, yes, my colleagues, gaming is considered a form of recreation for millions of our fellow citizens.

Gaming is legal in this country in those States who choose to allow it and to regulate it. The vast majority of States do allow gaming and regulate it, whether it be lotteries, racing, card rooms, casinos, or bingo. This bill would make a legal activity illegal in those same States solely because it is done online rather than in a casino or in a church. In reality, the intent of this bill, and it is rather obvious, is to attack and outlaw legal gaming in our Nation.

Supporters of this bill argue that online gaming is a great danger to society and our youth because some people gamble too much and some underage people might access online wagering sites. By that logic, the next piece of legislation we should be considering is banning online shopping. Surely those who overspend their budgets online and young people who borrow their mom's credit card must be stopped by the long arm of Federal law enforcement.

Supporters of the bill before us today claim that their target is the offshore gambling operations that are sucking billions of dollars out of the United States, as Mr. Goodlatte said. Indeed, Internet gaming has grown from a $3 billion industry in 2001, and it is projected to reach $25 billion by the end of the decade.

Americans account for as much as half of that amount. But there is nothing in this bill, let me repeat that, nothing in this bill that will shut down these offshore companies who operate legally in other countries. Like it or not, Americans who wish to wager online will find a way to do so.

The very nature of a free World Wide Web will continue to make online gaming available across the globe, including the United States. Under this bill, billions of dollars will continue to flow out of our country, with millions of Americans wishing to wager online. It is ridiculous, ridiculous to think this bill will actually stop online gaming. Just like Prohibition failed, this prohibition on gaming in the comfort of your own living room will fail as well.
but dean heller is a bigot who supports online poker this year. tough choice for nevada bigots who play online poker in 2012.

*bigotry cite: http://www.ontheissues.org/house/dean_heller.htm

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08-03-2012 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by rwperu34
Because poker needs to be passed before Berkley would take office. Hopefully by getting the endorsement from 2+2, Heller will work harder to get the necessary support for the lame duck.
Is online poker worth putting this guy in office. I mean this guy is you're standard republican degenerate. Against everything. Even federal minimum wage. Wtf. The list goes on and on.

Be smart. Vote democrat.
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08-03-2012 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ledoutwbottomset
Is online poker worth putting this guy in office. I mean this guy is you're standard republican degenerate. Against everything. Even federal minimum wage. Wtf. The list goes on and on.

Be smart. Vote democrat.
I'd vote for Adolph Hitler or Jerry Sandusky if I thought it would bring back online poker back.
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08-03-2012 , 01:06 AM
This is an interesting race. It's definitely the first Senate race where both major party candidates are strong poker advocates.

Rep. Berkley has been terrific for poker and was standing up for us prior to players even considering organizing and fighting back. On the other hand, Sen. Heller has been taking the lead in encouraging Republican senators to support online poker legislation -- quite the thankless task among some of his colleagues.

So, from a poker standpoint, IMO we can't go wrong with either candidate. In Berkley, we have an advocate with an impeccable track record for poker. In Heller, we make much-needed inroads into the Senate GOP. We need more Republican support and we benefit greatly by making this as bipartisan as possible.

I think it's great that people and companies are coming out in favor of both of these candidates, showing that poker players care about their rights and in the political process.

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08-03-2012 , 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by rwperu34
I'd vote for Adolph Hitler or Jerry Sandusky if I thought it would bring back online poker back.
A man with his priorities straight. I like it. Assuming its a well timed edgy joke
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08-03-2012 , 01:46 AM
Deleted most of my post but I have read little about Heller but everyone that has followed this race knows his opponent is in ethical hot water right now. You may want to research her before you go jumping on the anti bandwagon.

Last edited by John Mehaffey; 08-03-2012 at 01:57 AM. Reason: Meh, not getting into a political discussion with someone like that here
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08-03-2012 , 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by rwperu34
I'd vote for Adolph Hitler or Jerry Sandusky if I thought it would bring back online poker back.
OMG.

It is my hope, as an American, that you will all vote for whomever is the best overall candidate and not vote for someone just because of their stance on Internet poker.

(Single-issue voters are stupid.)

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08-03-2012 , 03:14 AM
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OMG.

It is my hope, as an American, that you will all vote for whomever is the best overall candidate and not vote for someone just because of their stance on Internet poker.

(Single-issue voters are stupid.)
No issue (or combination of issues) is going to have a bigger impact on my life than online poker, so for me to consider anything else when rating a candidate would be stupid.
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