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06-16-2014 , 02:20 AM
Wife received her $440.xx on Wednesday via ACH. Should be getting a check in the mail for my $606.11 Mon/Tue.

Really never thought these days would come....
06-20-2014 , 06:43 PM
I thought I was going to be in this batch because I accidentally made 2 petitions. I didn't get anything saying mine was disputed. Should I be worried?
07-21-2014 , 10:07 AM
Has anyone who appealed the amount they are owed gotten any response from GCG yet?

(I haven't.)


--klez
07-21-2014 , 06:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by klezmaniac
Has anyone who appealed the amount they are owed gotten any response from GCG yet?

(I haven't.)


--klez
No disputed claims have been paid yet. The FTP Remissions thread in NVG has the most recent updates.
07-22-2014 , 01:56 PM
Thanks.

I hadn't heard anything in a while, and I was beginning to worry.


--klez
09-05-2014 , 07:26 PM
PPA. We could use some help. This disputed claims process is taking FOREVER, with no end in sight.
09-08-2014 , 01:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunslinger1988
PPA. We could use some help. This disputed claims process is taking FOREVER, with no end in sight.
We discuss this with DoJ regularly, especially when they hit roadblocks. This is a large remission. It may be their largest in terms of the number of applicants. It's a slow process to be sure and I understand the frustration.
09-08-2014 , 08:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheEngineer
We discuss this with DoJ regularly, especially when they hit roadblocks. This is a large remission. It may be their largest in terms of the number of applicants. It's a slow process to be sure and I understand the frustration.
Do you talk with GCG at all?

Them not looking at the disputed claims until after a certain date seems like an obvious mistake in their process. Not paying them until the end makes sense, but not reviewing them until after the other payments is beyond ridiculous.
09-14-2014 , 06:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by highland
Do you talk with GCG at all?

Them not looking at the disputed claims until after a certain date seems like an obvious mistake in their process. Not paying them until the end makes sense, but not reviewing them until after the other payments is beyond ridiculous.
Rich's view seems to be ride it out the payments will be soon, but he does not offer details about the process from his meetings with the DoJ.

I remember on pocket fives he was quoted as saying that disputed accounts would have information at the end of March, maybe he was misquoted.

Either way, just sit tight, no one who can help you with information regarding the process.

If I had to guess easy disputes will see payments in Dec/Jan, considering 600 petitions took 3 months, that would be an accomplishment.
09-15-2014 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt Twomey
I remember on pocket fives he was quoted as saying that disputed accounts would have information at the end of March, maybe he was misquoted.
I don't believe i said that about disputed claims, but if I did it highlights the issue that you've been trolling me through two threads for me to post any and all speculation while simultaneously demanding that it be totally accurate and vetted prior to sharing it.

I will post anything I hear as soon as I know it. I'll post it here ITT though.
09-17-2014 , 08:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheEngineer
I don't believe i said that about disputed claims, but if I did it highlights the issue that you've been trolling me through two threads for me to post any and all speculation while simultaneously demanding that it be totally accurate and vetted prior to sharing it.

I will post anything I hear as soon as I know it. I'll post it here ITT though.
Not trolling, just stating a fact that disputed accounts have received no reliable information about the process from the parties involved.
09-22-2014 , 02:14 PM
Today, I spoke with the Department of Justice and received an update on FTP remissions. First, the recent announced wave of a $2million disbursement of “undisputed” claims should be hitting bank accounts this week. These players can expect to receive their funds Wednesday – Friday. So that is good news for undisputed claimants.

The news is not so great for those of us with disputed claims, but any news is progress. For petitioners who filed a disputed claim -- but in the view of the Garden City did not provide sufficient or clear evidence of this dispute -- they should expect an email within 60 days notifying them of issues with respect to their claim and be given a time frame in which to provide clarifying information/evidence.

If you do not receive notification, then you should assume there is no issue with your disputed claim. If you do not receive notification within 60 days your claim likely falls into two categories. 1) Cash outs near the time of Black Friday (either before or after) where a transfer of funds was never completed or a check bounced. They are still determining the time frame for which these “cashouts” will be accepted as owed to the player without the player having to provide additional documentation. 2) Small discrepancies relative to the overall claim. These will likely be approved without serious investigation by Garden City or additional information provided by the player. I did not get a definition of “small discrepancies” but I suspect it would need to be less than 10 percent of your claim to be considered “small.” Again, this is just my supposition.

If after review of a claim, GCG/DOJ does not agree with the amount requested, the petitioner will be afforded an opportunity to appeal the decision. This process is separate from the deficiency notice process detailed above.

However, (and this is where the news really disappoints) it is unlikely that any disputed claims will be audited and approved for disbursement until Q1 2015. Based on my conversation and this information, it appears there is still much work for Garden City to complete. The wait has been torturous for many and we hope that no one will have to wait beyond early next year to be paid. I expect to have more conversations with the DOJ over the coming weeks and will provide the community with updates as I get new information.

John A. Pappas
Executive Director, PPA
09-22-2014 , 02:45 PM
Before everybody pisses and moans... Thanks for the update.

Unfortunate but not surprising really. It's more complex that meets the eye. I do have once concern or suggestion. They should notify all disputed users with the status including those they intend to process.
09-22-2014 , 03:28 PM
I have a Canadian friend who never got his account balance off of FTP. What can he do at this point?
09-22-2014 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ActionFreak
I have a Canadian friend who never got his account balance off of FTP. What can he do at this point?
I believe that PokerStars handled refunding FTP $ to all non-American accounts directly. He should contact them.

John Pappas
09-23-2014 , 09:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PPAdc
Today, I spoke with the Department of Justice and received an update on FTP remissions. First, the recent announced wave of a $2million disbursement of “undisputed” claims should be hitting bank accounts this week. These players can expect to receive their funds Wednesday – Friday. So that is good news for undisputed claimants.

The news is not so great for those of us with disputed claims, but any news is progress. For petitioners who filed a disputed claim -- but in the view of the Garden City did not provide sufficient or clear evidence of this dispute -- they should expect an email within 60 days notifying them of issues with respect to their claim and be given a time frame in which to provide clarifying information/evidence.

If you do not receive notification, then you should assume there is no issue with your disputed claim. If you do not receive notification within 60 days your claim likely falls into two categories. 1) Cash outs near the time of Black Friday (either before or after) where a transfer of funds was never completed or a check bounced. They are still determining the time frame for which these “cashouts” will be accepted as owed to the player without the player having to provide additional documentation. 2) Small discrepancies relative to the overall claim. These will likely be approved without serious investigation by Garden City or additional information provided by the player. I did not get a definition of “small discrepancies” but I suspect it would need to be less than 10 percent of your claim to be considered “small.” Again, this is just my supposition.

If after review of a claim, GCG/DOJ does not agree with the amount requested, the petitioner will be afforded an opportunity to appeal the decision. This process is separate from the deficiency notice process detailed above.

However, (and this is where the news really disappoints) it is unlikely that any disputed claims will be audited and approved for disbursement until Q1 2015. Based on my conversation and this information, it appears there is still much work for Garden City to complete. The wait has been torturous for many and we hope that no one will have to wait beyond early next year to be paid. I expect to have more conversations with the DOJ over the coming weeks and will provide the community with updates as I get new information.

John A. Pappas
Executive Director, PPA
-Can you describe the process GCG must go through to remit 1) a single undisputed account and 2) a disputed account?
-Can you describe the strict set of protocols you mentioned on twitter that the DOJ must go through once GCG's work to release an account balance to its rightful owner?
-How many disputed accounts (approximate #) are there to settle?

I am hoping answers to these questions will help me gain an understanding of how this could possibly take so long.
09-23-2014 , 11:25 AM
Thanks so much for the update with some real information!

I'm actually pleased with the new timeline for disputed accounts. What little information there was before made it seem like it would be a lot longer than Q1 2015, since it seemed like they hadn't started scoping out the work for disputeds yet.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PPAdc
If you do not receive notification, then you should assume there is no issue with your disputed claim. If you do not receive notification within 60 days your claim likely falls into two categories.
This is the kind of thing where I feel like in the brief moments when the ear of GCG/DoJ is listening, maybe they would be willing to alter this slightly and send emails to everyone. Assuming information based on the passing of a date set by DoJ and informed to us via online forum is much much less comforting than an email saying "You're in the simple disputed bucket, gratz".

As of a few days ago, the hotline didn't know anything about the disputeds being categorized into simple and more complicated. Anybody talked with Patrick and know if he can tell people if they've been sorted yet?
09-24-2014 , 01:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PPAdc
Today, I spoke with the Department of Justice and received an update on FTP remissions. First, the recent announced wave of a $2million disbursement of “undisputed” claims should be hitting bank accounts this week. These players can expect to receive their funds Wednesday – Friday. So that is good news for undisputed claimants.
Thank you so much for this information. I have been checking the GCG claims web site on a regular basis since about November of last year and they always give partial information and that has been very frustrating considering the circumstances. I should have received my money in one of the first three rounds of payments but did not because I learned that the petition I made myself in November 2013, when I first learned that they are finally paying out, was a duplicate since the Doj/GCG created an original petition from their records of me playing on Fulltilt and sent it to me via e-mail. My problem was that I was not able to log into my old e-mail, where they sent this info that I have never seen. I was able to explain this to them and that's when they informed me of the duplicate and sent me an e-mail with my original petition and gave me an option to remove the double. When I finally seen the original I agreed with the amount which was presented to me on June 13th, day after the 3rd round (yeah just my luck) so I've been waiting ever since. It is great to hear that my money will hit before or on Friday, which is in two days!!! This is like a huge chip off my shoulder, lord knows I been waiting for this forever. Party on Friday at my house!! lolz Also I just wanted to thank the poker community for helping make this process happen, like I thank Daniel Negreanu who I think was a voice for us all without out a voice after this Black Friday catastrophe through his blog. Even though it's been almost 5 years it's better late than never. And the two people I blame most for this situation Howard Lederer and Chris Furguson I hope you guy's rot in hell or prison wherever you go first. I can't believe I use to look up to you scrubs. Anyway, great to hear that my money is right around the corner. Thank you. w00t
09-27-2014 , 12:59 AM
$$$PAIDOFF$$$$ yesterday. Finally.

I think I filed in March of this year - claim was not disputed.

I honestly never thought I would see that money again and just filed as kind of a "wth, it's worth 10 minutes for a small chance of getting $1k back".

Thank you to 2+2 and the people in this thread for keeping me informed on all the info, otherwise I would have just let this opportunity slide by unnoticed.
10-05-2014 , 04:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BKiCe
-Can you describe the process GCG must go through to remit 1) a single undisputed account and 2) a disputed account?
-Can you describe the strict set of protocols you mentioned on twitter that the DOJ must go through once GCG's work to release an account balance to its rightful owner?
-How many disputed accounts (approximate #) are there to settle?

I am hoping answers to these questions will help me gain an understanding of how this could possibly take so long.

Please provide some answers for these questions... Some greater insight is needed as to how the process could possibly take this long.
11-03-2014 , 02:27 AM
It's been about a month since the last info was posted here, so thought I'd give this a little bump. Q1 of 2015 still the optimistic estimate for those of us with disputed claims?
11-03-2014 , 06:18 AM
Hey guys I think I might be a little late to the party haha. I've been reading on everyone getting back their money and im happy to see that but myself personally have not kept up at all with this black friday stuff and was wondering do you think they are still accepting petitions? I went through my old email address I used for my Full tilt account and notice i got sent an email from last november with my petition and control #'s and its been almost a year hahahaha you think its still too late to file? I have not seen anyone really talking about people filing petitions super late like I am. I tried to enter the #s into the site to file a petition and it says the deadline has closed but 2 week deadline seemed pretty harsh with an event this big i feel like its something that should always be on the back burner when it comes to players filing for their money
11-03-2014 , 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RWHISSYLOL
Hey guys I think I might be a little late to the party haha. I've been reading on everyone getting back their money and im happy to see that but myself personally have not kept up at all with this black friday stuff and was wondering do you think they are still accepting petitions? I went through my old email address I used for my Full tilt account and notice i got sent an email from last november with my petition and control #'s and its been almost a year hahahaha you think its still too late to file? I have not seen anyone really talking about people filing petitions super late like I am. I tried to enter the #s into the site to file a petition and it says the deadline has closed but 2 week deadline seemed pretty harsh with an event this big i feel like its something that should always be on the back burner when it comes to players filing for their money
Remissions were opened for filing in September 2013. You've had a year to do it. Sorry but you missed it. However, you could call them up and see what they say anyway.
http://www.fulltiltpokerclaims.com/
11-03-2014 , 09:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Proofrock
It's been about a month since the last info was posted here, so thought I'd give this a little bump. Q1 of 2015 still the optimistic estimate for those of us with disputed claims?
Check the NVG thread on FTP remissions, which is ongoing with the latest info:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...lease-1371884/
11-09-2014 , 06:17 PM
Hey guys, After emailing the full tilt poker claims email they said I am passed the deadline WHICH IS OBVIOUS THANK YOU, They will be opening another filing period on November 9th, 2014 which is TODAY! they resent me the petition # and control # with the response email and today I hop on the website to file for my petition to get my money back and guess what? The website still states the deadline is passed for a petition to be filed. Anyone else experiencing these problems?

      
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