Why Can't Pokerstars Re-Enter the US Market Containment Thread

[Riverman]

Terms of an agreement with the DOJ? Because if the wire act doesn't apply to poker the UIGEA isn't a problem for them, right? What am I missing?

[JohnFR]

Originally Posted by Riverman

Terms of an agreement with the DOJ? Because if the wire act doesn't apply to poker the UIGEA isn't a problem for them, right? What am I missing?

UIGEA still applies because offering online poker would break every state's laws.

[ChrisMystery]

Originally Posted by JohnFR

UIGEA still applies because offering online poker would break every state's laws.

?

[Riverman]

Originally Posted by JohnFR

UIGEA still applies because offering online poker would break every state's laws.

Wat? No.

[TheDarkElf]

Originally Posted by Riverman

Wat? No.

The BF indictments do not rely on the Wire Act. Nothing has changed. They are gone.

[ScreaminAsian]

they signed a deal with doj saying they wouldn't offer real money play to anyone in the US until the legal proceedings are over. they signed that to get their domains back from doj a couple days after BF.

doj would bring the hammer down on them for breaking such a deal

[lawdude]

Originally Posted by JohnFR

UIGEA still applies because offering online poker would break every state's laws.

Not every state's laws, but definitely many state laws.

Further, even if Stars executives pleaded out or convinced the DoJ to dismiss the charges against them, they are FAR from out of the legal woods in this country. Bear in mind they offered online poker in 50 states and the District of Columbia without a gaming license. If they started up again in the US, they'd face significant exposure to state prosecutions.

[permafrost]

Originally Posted by lawdude

Not every state's laws, but definitely many state laws.

Further, even if Stars executives pleaded out or convinced the DoJ to dismiss the charges against them, they are FAR from out of the legal woods in this country. Bear in mind they offered online poker in 50 states and the District of Columbia without a gaming license. If they started up again in the US, they'd face significant exposure to state prosecutions.

Which states are okay with Stars or other unlicensed site operations?

[LastLife]

Originally Posted by permafrost

Which states are okay with Stars or other unlicensed site operations?

None, but that doesn't mean it is illegal everywhere.

[MurderbyNumbers123]

Hah, in b4 px, skall or TE

Pokerstars offering real money play in the US is still in violation of the UIGEA, which is an entirely seperate piece of legislation than the wire act.

[zachvac]

Read the BF indictments. Count how many times the Wire Act is mentioned. Maybe after this exercise you will see why.

[LastLife]

Originally Posted by MurderbyNumbers123

Hah, in b4 px, skall or TE

Pokerstars offering real money play in the US is still in violation of the UIGEA, which is an entirely seperate piece of legislation than the wire act.

Without the Wire Act, there is no federal law making Ipoker illegal. The Feds can only enforce the UIGEA+IGBA if a poker site is in violation of a state law. There are states where one could make the case that IPoker doesn't violate any laws. Absent the DoJ deal, Pokerstars could, hypothetically, operate legally in those states.

[MurderbyNumbers123]

I stand corrected

Stars, get ur act together and open up shop.

Every state but washington?

[MurderbyNumbers123]

Also, America is the worst

[Chargers In 09]

It would not be a profitable venture in their eyes otherwise they would serve the US regardless of any stupid law(s).