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04-23-2012, 10:53 AM
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#6871
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grinder
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: At poker rights daily action thread
Posts: 400
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Re: Monday Action Plan: Here's a short, quick action to stand up for poker today
done 4/23
The following facebook comment thread is from last week, so no need for further responses. I just want to say that when people post anti-poker comments like this, I like to respond to them because their arguments are usually pretty easy to refute. It probably won't change their minds, but it provides a response for anyone else who might read it.
https://www.facebook.com/RepJeffMill...50823804091672
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04-23-2012, 10:57 AM
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#6872
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adept
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: US of Goldman Sachs
Posts: 820
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Re: Monday Action Plan: Here's a short, quick action to stand up for poker today
done
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04-23-2012, 11:29 AM
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#6873
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grinder
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Can't move up from Play Money!!!
Posts: 444
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Re: Monday Action Plan: Here's a short, quick action to stand up for poker today
Done!!!
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04-23-2012, 11:41 AM
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#6874
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Daily Action plan headquarters
Posts: 1,647
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Re: Monday Action Plan: Here's a short, quick action to stand up for poker today
shipped.
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04-23-2012, 12:28 PM
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#6875
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: PL Daily Action Thread
Posts: 8,524
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Re: Monday Action Plan: Here's a short, quick action to stand up for poker today
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Originally Posted by jonesse
The following facebook comment thread is from last week, so no need for further responses. I just want to say that when people post anti-poker comments like this, I like to respond to them because their arguments are usually pretty easy to refute. It probably won't change their minds, but it provides a response for anyone else who might read it.
https://www.facebook.com/RepJeffMill...50823804091672
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I still think its a mistake for us to make arguments like "lots of professional poker players lost their jobs" etc since most don't recognize gambling as a legitimate profession. Making this argument just leads to more dumb arguments about whether or not gambling as a job is a good idea, ie "but how much did you lose?".
And thats unnecessary, there's no reason to get into an additional fight about whether or not its possible to make a living playing poker. We accomplish nothing, and just open ourselves up to additional criticism.
We could make the exact same point and leave no room for that refutation by instead mentioning the software developers, marketing executives, etc who's jobs were sent overseas. By making this argument, you turn the conversation away from gambling and instead into middle-class jobs with salary and benefits.
there are lots of careers in poker that don't require playing, many people here tend to forget that and focus on the players. But in stupid facebook arguments, that is often a big mistake and just makes you play right into their hands.
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04-23-2012, 02:18 PM
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#6876
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Cynical Idealist
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Advocating for YOUR freedom to play
Posts: 4,896
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Re: Monday Action Plan: Here's a short, quick action to stand up for poker today
+1 Rollwave.
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04-23-2012, 03:51 PM
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#6877
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Rich Muny - PPA VP
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Coordinating the Daily Action Plan!
Posts: 20,611
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Re: Monday Action Plan: Here's a short, quick action to stand up for poker today
Part of tomorrow's Daily Action Plan:
- Let's sent tweets in support of NJ's state legislation (S 1565) HERE and HERE. Let's also post to Gov. Chrisite's Facebook wall with pro-poker posts HERE.
- Let's thank three new cosponsors of HR 2366 on Facebook! Rep Mark Amodei R-NV HERE, Rep Frank LoBiondo R-NJ HERE, and Rep Adam Smith D-WA HERE.
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04-23-2012, 04:07 PM
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#6878
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journeyman
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Poker rights daily action thread
Posts: 204
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Re: Monday Action Plan: Here's a short, quick action to stand up for poker today
done
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04-23-2012, 05:07 PM
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#6879
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journeyman
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Mint Hill,NC
Posts: 267
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Re: Monday Action Plan: Here's a short, quick action to stand up for poker today
done...4/23
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04-23-2012, 05:10 PM
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#6880
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journeyman
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Mint Hill,NC
Posts: 267
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Re: Monday Action Plan: Here's a short, quick action to stand up for poker today
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Originally Posted by RollWave
I still think its a mistake for us to make arguments like "lots of professional poker players lost their jobs" etc since most don't recognize gambling as a legitimate profession. Making this argument just leads to more dumb arguments about whether or not gambling as a job is a good idea, ie "but how much did you lose?".
And thats unnecessary, there's no reason to get into an additional fight about whether or not its possible to make a living playing poker. We accomplish nothing, and just open ourselves up to additional criticism.
We could make the exact same point and leave no room for that refutation by instead mentioning the software developers, marketing executives, etc who's jobs were sent overseas. By making this argument, you turn the conversation away from gambling and instead into middle-class jobs with salary and benefits.
there are lots of careers in poker that don't require playing, many people here tend to forget that and focus on the players. But in stupid facebook arguments, that is often a big mistake and just makes you play right into their hands.
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+2 rollwave...good points, especially re: the non playing jobs this will bring. And about not really trying to push the "pro player" idea. We know they exist and how they got there( lots of study,work, and trial and error) Now is not the time to educate the population as a whole on making a loving online.
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04-23-2012, 07:54 PM
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#6881
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Fighting the Good Fight
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Daily Action Plan
Posts: 1,511
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Re: Monday Action Plan: Here's a short, quick action to stand up for poker today
done
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04-23-2012, 08:27 PM
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#6882
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,069
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Re: Monday Action Plan: Here's a short, quick action to stand up for poker today
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Originally Posted by TheEngineer
Part of tomorrow's Daily Action Plan:
- Let's sent tweets in support of NJ's state legislation (S 1565) HERE and HERE. Let's also post to Gov. Chrisite's Facebook wall with pro-poker posts HERE.
- Let's thank three new cosponsors of HR 2366 on Facebook! Rep Mark Amodei R-NV HERE, Rep Frank LoBiondo R-NJ HERE, and Rep Adam Smith D-WA HERE.
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Christie would be GREAT to have on our side!
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04-23-2012, 08:31 PM
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#6883
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,069
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Re: Monday Action Plan: Here's a short, quick action to stand up for poker today
Done
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04-23-2012, 11:56 PM
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#6884
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journeyman
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 264
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Re: Monday Action Plan: Here's a short, quick action to stand up for poker today
Tweeted.
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04-24-2012, 12:24 AM
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#6885
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Rich Muny - PPA VP
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Coordinating the Daily Action Plan!
Posts: 20,611
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Re: Tuesday Action Plan: Let's tell NJ Gov. Chris Christie to support poker!
Tuesday, April 24, 2012
Let's keep telling lawmakers to support our rights and make sure they know we'll never fold in this fight. Today's action:
- Let's sent tweets in support of NJ's proposed state legislation (S 1565) HERE and HERE. Let's also post to Gov. Chrisite's Facebook wall with pro-poker posts HERE.
- Let's thank three new cosponsors of HR 2366 on Facebook! Rep. Mark Amodei R-NV HERE, Rep. Frank LoBiondo R-NJ HERE, and Rep. Adam Smith D-WA HERE.
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If you wish to do more today, please consider the following:
- Let's send House Subcommittee for Commerce, Manufacturing, and Trade Chair Mary Bono Mack and the rest of the subcommittee NEW tweets requesting a markup for HR 2366: HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, and HERE.
- Let's send Sen. Reid, Sen. McConnell, Sen. Kyl, Rep. Boehner, and Rep. Cantor NEW tweets: HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, and HERE.
- Let's send a prefilled tweet promoting today's action plan HERE, and let's share today's action on our own Facebook walls HERE.
Please reply in this thread with "tweeted", "done", etc. to encourage others. Thanks for participating!
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