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Old 12-03-2010, 02:08 PM   #301
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Id plan on not being able to play online as you currently can for some period of time if this passes. Whether that is 2 months, or 2 years, or whether you can play on the Bodogs of the world in the meantime, who knows? The point of the two year hiatus is, I assume, to give US companies time to get up and running and compete. Id be pretty surprised if you could just chug along as SNE on Stars or w/e in the meantime.
I can't imagine it would take US companies more than a few months to get up and running given how much money is at stake. I'd imagine Harrah's has been planning for this for some time and would be able to roll something out very quickly. I guess we need to know more about the licensing process, time-frames, etc. to really have an idea. Should be interesting and I hope the downtime is not too long. Could hurt alot of people...but really there's no alternative.
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Old 12-03-2010, 02:12 PM   #302
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Id be shocked if Apollo or TPG havent written that investment down substantially already.

Why isnt is a serious attempt to create an online poker market (albeit a protectionist one?) Are you saying that, even after this bill passes, you dont expect a licensed and regulated market to be the end result? I find that sort of hard to believe.
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Old 12-03-2010, 02:16 PM   #303
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...s/4256024.html

Perry has been getting gambling money for a long time.


Through Sept. 28, people or groups with an interest in gambling enterprises have given more than $2 million to candidates in the governor's race.

Perry has received $1.2 million from gambling interests; independent Comptroller Carole Keeton Strayhorn, $1 million; and Democrat Chris Bell, $3,000. Ironically, the most ardent supporter of expanded gambling, independent Kinky Friedman, has no donations tied to gambling interests.

In 2004, Perry briefly supported legalizing video lottery terminals — electronic slot machines — at existing Texas horse- and dog-racing tracks to help pay for public schools. That also would have allowed the Tigua and Alabama-Coushatta Indian tribes in Texas to operate casinos limited to those gambling devices.

Perry dropped that support under pressure from social and religious conservatives. He has been staunchly opposed to any expansion of gambling since.

"He doesn't want to see casino-style gambling come to the state," said spokesman Robert Black.


$2 billion drain?
Bell, Friedman and Strayhorn however, say Texans are gambling, but are leaving the state to do so.


"We are sucking conservatively 2 billion dollars a year out of our Texas classrooms. They are going to Louisiana, Arkansas, New Mexico and now Oklahoma," Strayhorn said.

Strayhorn supports allowing video lottery terminals at existing racing facilities.

Friedman said he thinks Perry is just catering to a small group of voters in Texas.

"Rick Perry's base is the far religious right. They say they are against gambling. I think the latest poll says 80 percent of Texans favor gambling, but they gamble out of state," Friedman said. Friedman supports establishing a full casino industry in Texas.
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Old 12-03-2010, 02:16 PM   #304
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wait what? so this will be decided on saturday?
No, Saturdays vote is on the House bill and another that will not pass, IIRC the second simply extends tax cuts up to 1M, the GOP wants ALL.

Both will fail it is being said, HOWEVER, if faced with approving poker in a few days.........

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Old 12-03-2010, 02:18 PM   #305
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This is different from what you said last month when we had this discussion. What's changed?
The discussion last month was if we had a 0% chance in the new House or not. I don't believe that's the case. Our chances there are over 0% (though Bachus now seemingly having a lock on the HFSC chairmanship doesn't help). However, I struggle to imagine this new Congress coming up with something better than what we're being offered here.
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Old 12-03-2010, 02:30 PM   #307
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The discussion last month was if we had a 0% chance in the new House or not. I don't believe that's the case. Our chances there are over 0% (though Bachus now seemingly having a lock on the HFSC chairmanship doesn't help). However, I struggle to imagine this new Congress coming up with something better than what we're being offered here.
OK, that's reasonable, I concede the 0% chance might be 0.1% and the fact that legislation in the next Congress would likely be worse, I just never understood why it bothered you so much I said 0% instead.

I do trust that all player liabilities have been removed, which is a huge step in the right direction.
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Old 12-03-2010, 02:34 PM   #308
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I've been gone for a while, good seeing LeapFrog hasn't changed though
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Old 12-03-2010, 02:36 PM   #309
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cliffs?
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Old 12-03-2010, 02:42 PM   #310
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Old 12-03-2010, 02:44 PM   #311
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cliffs?
Reid has floated a new federal iPoker bill to some lawmakers and media. It is not yet widely released, and is probably still undergoing revision. We are hoping that he finalizes it and attaches it to some must-pass legislation this month or even this week.

Bachus and cronies sent a letter to the Senate leadership denouncing this plan.

We all wait with bated breath to see what happens next. Please add your "one time".

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Old 12-03-2010, 02:44 PM   #312
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good.
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Old 12-03-2010, 02:47 PM   #313
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One ****ing time please.
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My first ever....

ONE TIME
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Old 12-03-2010, 02:56 PM   #315
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just this one time.
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