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01-05-2015 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by curtinsea
Thanks, but the that article is almost a year old and doesn't say anything about his views on internet gambling and poker, just his opposition to banning horse betting.
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01-06-2015 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Asterix811
I asked this awhile ago on here and never got an answer.
What's McConnell's position on internet poker and the pending legislation? I'm sure someone out there knows more than I do about this.
I've met with his office a few times. He's never, AFAIK, come out with an opinion, aside from pledging to support the horse racing industry as it relates to this.
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01-06-2015 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TheEngineer
I've met with his office a few times. He's never, AFAIK, come out with an opinion, aside from pledging to support the horse racing industry as it relates to this.
It will be really comical and ridiculous if McConnell ever came out explicitly supporting the banning of online poker but simultanously allowing for horse racing (b/c of it being big in his home state). That means if he would be a Sheldonsonite. I know I keep saying this over and over again but it continues to bear worth repeating: Let's not underestimate and be vigilant against hypocrisy, for it can have no bounds.
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01-06-2015 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TheEngineer
I've met with his office a few times. He's never, AFAIK, come out with an opinion, aside from pledging to support the horse racing industry as it relates to this.
McConnell's an expert politician. He didn't get where he is now by being stupid. Why voice an opinion on an issue before you need to and risk alienating any of your voters? Eventually he'll have to take a stand on it.
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01-09-2015 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Asterix811
McConnell's an expert politician. He didn't get where he is now by being stupid. Why voice an opinion on an issue before you need to and risk alienating any of your voters? Eventually he'll have to take a stand on it.
Interesting. Of course, I concur with your first two sentences. The latter remarks I am uncertain on in terms of the politicial chess game in Washington. Perhaps, being proactive on Capital Hill is important b/c perhaps Adelson may sink his fangs into McConnell's coffers overwhelming any monetary benefit the horse racing issue in his home state has with his own constituency, idk? Maybe it is important for the online poker industry to get at him BEFORE Adelson does, idk again???

The aforementioned questions/problem is probably best directed to and thought of by people like the Engineer etc.. I would imagine. This is political brickmanship that I do not have a Phd in.
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01-27-2015 , 05:21 PM
Sheldon Adelson called a meeting of the entire Republican contingent of the House Judiciary Committee, where he delivered his goals for 2015. He included RAWA:
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2015 is shaping up to be the make or break year for online poker in the US, and the stakes get higher with each passing day. Earlier this month, Las Vegas Sands (Venetian, Palazzo and Sands Bethlehem) CEO Sheldon Adelson had a face-to-face meeting with the entire Republican contingent of the House Judiciary Committee. He was actually granted an audience with these important lawmakers to share, in person, specific laws and actions he desires from this Congress!
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01-27-2015 , 06:00 PM
I can't believe this man is spending his last remaining years on this planet trying to come up with ways to eliminate online poker. What a waste of talent.
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01-27-2015 , 06:10 PM
The fact that this is even allowed to happen is disturbing and shows how corrupt our political system has become. Money has zero place in politics.
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01-28-2015 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by gdsfather
The fact that this is even allowed to happen is disturbing and shows how corrupt our political system has become. Money has zero place in politics.
Sometimes I think I am just a silly little rabbit who thinks trix (in this case see REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLICS) are for kids!

Nonetheless, all we can do is the best we can within what we can control in terms of our own efforts. Being a defeatist or debbie downer will certainly NOT get you to where you want to ever be.
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01-28-2015 , 04:32 PM
I'm saying it would help us to try and eliminate money form politics. That way people like sheldon don't hold the power of 100000 people.
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01-28-2015 , 06:10 PM
Here's an article in Townhall on Adelson's meeting:

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Adelson Visits DC to Reboot Effort to Outlaw Online Gambling

After spending millions of dollars to help elect a Republican House and Senate, Capitol Hill sources report Las Vegas gambling mogul Sheldon Adelson received a private briefing with Republican members of the House Judiciary Committee in the second week of January.

The meeting sends a strong signal that the billionaire, who is one of the most generous contributors to Republican candidates and campaigns—ever, will not retreat away from his desire to outlaw legal and regulated Internet gaming by the states.....
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01-28-2015 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by gdsfather
The fact that this is even allowed to happen is disturbing and shows how corrupt our p=olitical system has become. Money has zero place in politics.
+ infinity
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01-28-2015 , 09:50 PM
Someone should ask one of the members if they can have a meeting like Adelson did. When the member says no, the requestor should ask why not.
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01-31-2015 , 04:19 PM
This piece of **** needs to die already. I won't spend one dime in any of his properties.
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01-31-2015 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by greatwhite
This piece of **** needs to die already. I won't spend one dime in any of his properties.
I will pitch in to buy flowers when the time comes.
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01-31-2015 , 07:36 PM
If I was a horrible human being like himself, I would go to his funeral and just start clapping with joy.
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02-05-2015 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TheEngineer
Sheldon Adelson called a meeting of the entire Republican contingent of the House Judiciary Committee, where he delivered his goals for 2015. He included RAWA:
Would a constituent of one of the Republican members of the House Judiciary Committee please write and ask for a meeting with all the Republican members to express views on online poker and RAWA?

When they write back and deny you that, write them and ask why Sheldon Adelson got to. Especially since Adelson isn't a constituent of ANY member of the committee.
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02-05-2015 , 11:36 AM
Aldeson is the ultimate opportunist and hypocrite. He will use any argument to further his personal wealth. No Aldeson, you don't go into gaming, run one of the largest gambling empires in the world, while simultaneously complaining about I-gaming because of the destructive nature of gambling. Using "the issue strikes a personal chord with him," because of "his upbringing," argument, adds insult to injury. It's machiavellism IMO.

CaptainCrazo
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02-05-2015 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TheEngineer
Sheldon Adelson called a meeting of the entire Republican contingent of the House Judiciary Committee, where he delivered his goals for 2015. He included RAWA:
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Originally Posted by Doc T River
Someone should ask one of the members if they can have a meeting like Adelson did. When the member says no, the requestor should ask why not.
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Originally Posted by Doc T River
Would a constituent of one of the Republican members of the House Judiciary Committee please write and ask for a meeting with all the Republican members to express views on online poker and RAWA?

When they write back and deny you that, write them and ask why Sheldon Adelson got to. Especially since Adelson isn't a constituent of ANY member of the committee.
Adelson didn't "call" a meeting. He doesn't have the authority to do that. But the republicans on the committee did grant him an audience. With millions of constituents, it's a physical impossibility for members of congress to meet with everyone who calls them up wanting a meeting. It's common for committees to meet with experts on issues that's important to them, or legislation the committee's considering. The energy committees will meet with energy company ceo's. Congressional committee members meet with industry leaders, professors, lobbyists, and experts all the time. The committees, if they do their job correctly, should meet with a wide range of experts, to hear views representative of all their constituents, not just the ones they agree with. Adelson is a very successful businessman and gaming industry leader whose views represent a certain percentage of the population. It's not surprising that members of the judicial committee would want to hear what he has to say on gambling legislation. My question is did they also meet with people expressing other points of view? I can't say for sure, but I haven't read anything indicating that they did. They should have met with, maybe, a casino ceo who supports internet gaming, like Caesar's Gary Loveman, or someone from a lobbying group, like, maybe, PPA VP Rich Muny. By meeting only with "experts" who agree with their pre-formed views on legislation, these members of congress are failing in their responsibilities.
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02-05-2015 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Asterix811
Adelson didn't "call" a meeting. He doesn't have the authority to do that. But the republicans on the committee did grant him an audience. With millions of constituents, it's a physical impossibility for members of congress to meet with everyone who calls them up wanting a meeting. It's common for committees to meet with experts on issues that's important to them, or legislation the committee's considering. The energy committees will meet with energy company ceo's. Congressional committee members meet with industry leaders, professors, lobbyists, and experts all the time. The committees, if they do their job correctly, should meet with a wide range of experts, to hear views representative of all their constituents, not just the ones they agree with. Adelson is a very successful businessman and gaming industry leader whose views represent a certain percentage of the population. It's not surprising that members of the judicial committee would want to hear what he has to say on gambling legislation. My question is did they also meet with people expressing other points of view? I can't say for sure, but I haven't read anything indicating that they did. They should have met with, maybe, a casino ceo who supports internet gaming, like Caesar's Gary Loveman, or someone from a lobbying group, like, maybe, PPA VP Rich Muny. By meeting only with "experts" who agree with their pre-formed views on legislation, these members of congress are failing in their responsibilities.
If you don't think Adelson "called" the meeting, you are naive.
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02-10-2015 , 06:50 AM
^^^^^
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02-10-2015 , 06:17 PM
The guy in the video is so biased it makes us look bad IMO. There's no need to be so over the top about it. You can easily point out the facts and make Adelson look bad IMO. I'd rather keep our fight classy.
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02-11-2015 , 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DrMickHead
The guy in the video is so biased it makes us look bad IMO. There's no need to be so over the top about it. You can easily point out the facts and make Adelson look bad IMO. I'd rather keep our fight classy.
Why, because he's a dork?

In other news.

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CaptainCrazo
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02-11-2015 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Asterix811
Adelson didn't "call" a meeting. He doesn't have the authority to do that.
What happens to leadership when rank-and-file members complain about threats to their donor stream? Think about it.

Yes, Adelson does have that authority.

It was reported that Gov. Christie was addressing Adelson on Israel. Christie referred to the Gaza Strip and the West Bank as "the Occupied Territories." Adelson got up and walked away. Christie had to go to him to apologize for not referring to that area as disputed territories.

This story has nothing to do with one's opinion on those territories. It has a lot to do with a private citizen who holds such power that a governor will walk to another room to apologize.

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My question is did they also meet with people expressing other points of view? I can't say for sure, but I haven't read anything indicating that they did. They should have met with, maybe, a casino ceo who supports internet gaming, like Caesar's Gary Loveman, or someone from a lobbying group, like, maybe, PPA VP Rich Muny.
PPA Executive Director John Pappas meets with these offices regularly, but not all at once. Few are granted the access Adelson enjoys.

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By meeting only with "experts" who agree with their pre-formed views on legislation, these members of congress are failing in their responsibilities.
How to spell "agree" in DC: $$$$$
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