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Fox News is actually very careful about the things they say. They state most things as questions rather than statements. However, the guest clearly wasn't as well trained. She flat out said there's no way to geolocate. That can be proven false. She lied and that lie could hurt business. Therefore she technically could be sued by those impacted businesses.

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11-25-2014 , 01:04 PM

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Doc T River

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Here is a great post from the NVG thread dealing with the Huckabee situation.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...4&postcount=36

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11-25-2014 , 01:39 PM

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We need to be spreading this video:

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11-25-2014 , 01:43 PM

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Foxnews is no worse, and probably better than CNN and god awful MSNBC.

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Fox News is actually very careful about the things they say.

Lol, you guys are funny.

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11-25-2014 , 04:09 PM

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i've been putting Huckabee on blast on his facebook page over his clear courting of Adelson.

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11-25-2014 , 05:11 PM

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he's just another sellouut

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11-26-2014 , 03:44 AM

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We need to be spreading this video:

2:50 and on is really where the bottom line gets hammered home. The first couple minutes - while thoughtful and important info won't have won over anyone who's "on the fence" or doesn't have an opinion about online poker. Thanks for the link though - I'll definitely share it with others.

Before online poker was an issue I admit that I was ignorant regarding political cronyism. I love my country but damn - it's tough to feel patriotic when lawmakers are for sale. But I digress.

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12-01-2014 , 04:41 PM

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A few years ago when he was running for the Republican Party nomination for President, Huckabee wrote a book, A Simple Government. I bought it but never finished it. As I said in the NVG thread about the Huckabee segment, I am going to go back to it to see if there is anything in it that can be used to counter the support he is showing the anti-poker forces now.

He strongly opposed online poker at that time, even saying during his 2008 run that he wanted to ban it. I rated him F at that time.

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12-02-2014 , 02:32 AM

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Huckabee is a preacher. Enough said.

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12-02-2014 , 08:17 AM

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Huckabee is a preacher. Enough said.

Yeah. But to be fair, I read somewhere that hes usually "a very reasonable man" when hes not spending his time trying to save us from the imaginary devils and monsters some random ignorant primitive men dreamed up and scribbled on a piece of papyrus thousands of years ago.

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12-02-2014 , 10:36 AM

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Homosexuals too.

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12-02-2014 , 10:56 AM

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Huckabee is a preacher. Enough said.

This implies that all preachers think alike and they don't.

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Can we dispense with the attacks on religion that serve no purpose? Well, other than making people who are Christian and pro-poker feel attacked.

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Homosexuals too.

Can we stay on topic?

One way to deal with Huckabee is to point out that he condoned lying and thus he lied too. Not lying is one of the Ten Commandments and by breaking it, he sinned. It doesn't matter if you believe the matter you are against is a sin, you don't sin to combat it.

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12-02-2014 , 02:13 PM

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GOP Declines To Ban Online Gaming For Sheldon Adelson — Is The Allure Of Cronyism Fading?

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12-02-2014 , 02:45 PM

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GOP Declines To Ban Online Gaming For Sheldon Adelson — Is The Allure Of Cronyism Fading?

What was interesting is the piece was in a conservative publication.

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12-02-2014 , 02:54 PM

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A bit premature.

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12-02-2014 , 03:53 PM

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A bit premature.

If you are saying we need to continue to be vigilant, I agree. It is no time for a victory lap.

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12-02-2014 , 04:00 PM

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Yeah, the game hasn't even started. We are still in the lame duck.

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12-02-2014 , 07:38 PM

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GOP Declines To Ban Online Gaming For Sheldon Adelson — Is The Allure Of Cronyism Fading?

nice

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12-03-2014 , 06:55 AM

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Can we dispense with the attacks on religion that serve no purpose? Well, other than making people who are Christian and pro-poker feel attacked.

My post had a purpose and was not an attack on religion per se. Its purpose was to dispel the silly notion put forth by another poster that Huckabee was a reasonable man. The truth is he is a very irrational man. I could care less what he does in his personal life. But the reality is these views and bizarre mindset not only give a window into what you are dealing with mentally, but they dominantly shape his politics and agendas. That makes it absolutely germane when evaluating him with regards to this and or any other issue. I apologize if that offends you.

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12-03-2014 , 04:32 PM

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Then I guess my support of online poker should be taken with a grain of salt because I share the same "bizarre mindset" due to my believing in "the imaginary devils and monsters some random ignorant primitive men dreamed up and scribbled on a piece of papyrus thousands of years ago" as Huckabee does.

Getting back on track, if someone hasn't already done so, they should go to Stop's website and check out what they call "Know The Real Facts". Here's a link. It is pretty laughable.

http://stopinternetgambling.com/reso...an-fact-sheet/

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12-05-2014 , 09:11 AM

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I'd like to suggest writing to the CSIG member organizations as an action plan. We should let them know it is a shill group using lies to advance the cause. A fact that might not sit well with the religious groups that are members.

I hope to get a letter done this weekend to send to groups in my state at least.

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12-07-2014 , 07:46 AM

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Sheldon Adelson Looks To Harry Reid For A Big Favor [huffingtonpost.com]

Should RAWA be inserted into the omnibus spending bill, it would bolster suspicions on Capitol Hill that the fiery Democratic leader and the conservative billionaire have struck a bargain to help one another -- specifically, that Reid will help Adelson accomplish his priority in Congress, and in exchange, Adelson won't spend his money to bolster Reid's opponent in 2016.

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Many in Washington did a double take earlier this year when Reid defended Adelson on national TV. Speaking in May about the millions of dollars Adelson had spent building support for RAWA at the state level, Reid told MSNBC, "I know Sheldon Adelson. He's not in this for money; he's in this because he's got certain ideological views. Don't pick on [Adelson]. He's not in it to make money.”

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12-07-2014 , 10:11 AM

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If Reid slips RAWA in at the 11th hour, the other gaming companies need to pour money into his opponent's campaign.

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12-07-2014 , 10:42 AM

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If Reid slips RAWA in at the 11th hour, the other gaming companies need to pour money into his opponent's campaign.

Or they could all pledge to back Reid if he does the right thing and stands up to Adelson.

Adelson might be the single richest and most vocal casino owner in Vegas, but there are many other millionaire casino owners. What are their views on RAWA? Are they generally opposed to or in favor of a ban on internet gambling? Certainly the combined wealth and influence of those opposed to a ban would be greater than Adelson's. I would guess that many of those are active behind the scenes, just not as vocal and public as Adelson.

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12-07-2014 , 10:57 AM

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I have a question that might seem obvious to some of you who are more informed on this issue than I am. In a few weeks Reid will no longer be in control of the Senate. So, what are Mitch McConnell's views on this issue, on RAWA, and on Adelson?

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