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Old 05-30-2012, 07:22 AM   #106
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Next reading is set for 5/31. I thought it has to be voted on before 6/1 otherwise it's considered dead? If I'm wrong, I apologize. I mean I want this to pass living in IL.
I don't see any info on the IL web site to indicate that the 3rd Reading is set yet. It does show that the deadline for a third reading is 5/31.

Since both the IL Senate and the IL House adjourn on May 31st, it's hard to imagine how this bill will get through by then. Keep in mind that this bill will also have to go for a vote in the House if it is passed by the Senate.

Although this is on paper a House bill, it has never really been considered by the House. Senator Cullerton, the President of the Senate, took this bill about property taxes which was passed by the House and scuttled it, to use for the gambling bill. All the property tax language was removed by Senate Amendment No. 1, and now he is trying to add the gambling authorization language by Senate Amendment No. 3. I assume the property tax bill was already dead in the water when he did this.
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Old 05-30-2012, 11:25 AM   #107
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this is a classic Illinois political gambit, popularized by Illinois rep Dan Rostenkowski in the 1980's after discovering his great-great grandmother's handwritten Italian cookbook. laying dormant within those pages was one of the oldest recorded recipes for Turducken, the mindblowing trichotomy of which was so jarring to Rostenkowski's psyche that he experienced a powerful political epiphany-- one that would change the way democracy worked FOREVER.

his first attempt at "turding" a bill came in 1984, when he directed his staff to alter an active bill in the illinois House, initially intended to provide further oversight and safeguards against corrupt political practices, but ended up being passed as a measure to start a doggie daycare program at The Drake hotel exclusively for elected state officials; keeping the original name and description.

president Clinton later pardoned Rostenkowski in return for the turducken recipe, which, at the time, he believed to be a type of food.

but the part of the story that seems to have been lost to history was that the ancient cookbook wasn't really a cookbook at all, but rather a cryptic diary kept by the mistress of one of the most powerful mafia dons in Italian history, and that Turducken wasn't what Bill Clinton believed it to be. the original recipe was more about satisfying the chef's cravings for justice, and generally involved at least one obese Siscillian traitor.
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Old 05-30-2012, 03:35 PM   #108
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I hope this guy isn't present if/when they vote on poker in IL

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...or_646300.html
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Old 05-30-2012, 04:58 PM   #109
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While this doesn't look that likely to pass on first glance, in Illinois, the reality is that something not being talked about is not indicative of death. A great deal of things move around Illinois (Springfield and Chicago) without too much fuss.

The most recent example would be the infrastructure stuff in Chicago. That's not IL state politics (Springfield), but the same type of culture is there. Put it this way, if Madigan or Rahm in particular want to make something happen, unless there is a big stink about it (sometimes even then), you would be silly to bet against them.
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Old 05-30-2012, 05:41 PM   #110
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While this doesn't look that likely to pass on first glance, in Illinois, the reality is that something not being talked about is not indicative of death. A great deal of things move around Illinois (Springfield and Chicago) without too much fuss.

The most recent example would be the infrastructure stuff in Chicago. That's not IL state politics (Springfield), but the same type of culture is there. Put it this way, if Madigan or Rahm in particular want to make something happen, unless there is a big stink about it (sometimes even then), you would be silly to bet against them.
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:07 AM   #111
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Mountie: Sir, I do not approve of your methods!

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LMAO!

I watched Chicago's Mayor Daley (the son), pass a lot of stuff through like that too. He knew that no matter what happened he would always get re-elected with like 70% of the votes. That's power!
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:13 PM   #112
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Re: Illinois Looking at Online Poker Through Lottery

So does no news at this time mean the bill is dead?
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Old 05-31-2012, 08:15 PM   #113
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Literally 4 hours and 45 minutes of hope left. (I think the deadline is midnight) In the 6 o'clock news I heard (~read in the subtitles) they're fighting hard over the pensions, but at the very end the reporter said they may still vote on [something] gambling. Wasn't clear if online or not.
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:52 PM   #114
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An hour ago:
Illinois pension reform shelved for now; gambling expansion still on the table
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Before the midnight deadline, both chambers are expected to approve a roughly $33 billion state general revenue budget for the fiscal year that starts July 1.
The gambling expansion is for live casinos etc. No word on online... You'd think something big like that would be mentioned if it was anywhere close to materializing... Stranger things have happened, though.
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Old 05-31-2012, 10:54 PM   #115
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I think the main story here for most people is most definitely a casino downtown. Online poker is a sideshow.

Have nothing to really back that up other than feel.
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Old 06-01-2012, 12:21 AM   #116
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/p...,0,95635.story

Cliffs: B&M in downtown Chicago, nothing about online.
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Old 06-01-2012, 01:49 AM   #117
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Even that isn't very likely... sigh...
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Old 06-01-2012, 02:56 AM   #118
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Re: Illinois Looking at Online Poker Through Lottery

Given that Illinois and NJ are both states we would coin as "aggressively" pursuing online gambling I'd hate to see how long it takes for states that aren't as aggressive.

This thing is going to take a decade or two to take off (intrastate). I hope people realize this.
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:15 AM   #119
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Re: Illinois Looking at Online Poker Through Lottery

i bet the under. care to wager on it? serious btw i love money
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Old 06-01-2012, 07:45 AM   #120
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Time Expires for Illinois Online Poker Bill
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