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03-29-2012, 07:22 PM
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Pooh-Bah
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Re: Delaware IGaming and NFL betting Bill Introduced
Because when there's a ****load of money to protect you argue whatever the **** side is in your interest at the time.
Just like, even though there are different owners before and after, Harrah's lobbied for the UIGEA while Casesars (Harrah's old name) is lobbying for federal legalization and launching bull**** entities like FPUSA.
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03-29-2012, 07:48 PM
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veteran
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Re: Delaware IGaming and NFL betting Bill Introduced
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Originally Posted by MrAce777
My brain is full of ****! Why was the NFL arguing that sports betting is a game of skill if they were fighting really hard against it?
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Sports leagues sue to block betting [ESPN]
The complaint alleges that sports betting in Delaware violates the 1992 anti-sports betting law, as well as the state law which mandates all forms of gambling be games of chance, not skill. The leagues argue that, by going from parlay to single game betting, chance gives way to skill. These are the same people (the NFL) that argued in 2006 for a fantasy football exemption in the UIGEA because that's a skill game.
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03-29-2012, 08:18 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Losing my stack to better players
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Re: Delaware IGaming and NFL betting Bill Introduced
LOL. I had forgotten about the NFL arguing that issue here.
Like I said, the whole debate gave me a brain cramp. It was as if everyone wanted to see who could make the dumbest argument possible.
State officials thinking that gaming would solve all financial ills, the NFL arguing that sports betting is a skill and thus should be outlawed,, conservative types accepting parlays as a "compromise" - yeesh. Head asplode.
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03-30-2012, 03:25 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Re: Delaware IGaming and NFL betting Bill Introduced
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Originally Posted by MrAce777
Why was the NFL arguing that sports betting is a game of skill if they were fighting really hard against it?
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Originally Posted by TeflonDawg
Because when there's a ****load of money to protect you argue whatever the **** side is in your interest at the time.
Just like, even though there are different owners before and after, Harrah's lobbied for the UIGEA while Casesars (Harrah's old name) is lobbying for federal legalization and launching bull**** entities like FPUSA.
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Originally Posted by sba9630
These are the same people (the NFL) that argued in 2006 for a fantasy football exemption in the UIGEA because that's a skill game.
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Case in point. It's all complete bull**** with absolutely nothing being genuine about it. **** them all.
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03-30-2012, 04:18 PM
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veteran
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: setting strawman arguments ablaze
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Re: Delaware IGaming and NFL betting Bill Introduced
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Originally Posted by TeflonDawg
Case in point. It's all complete bull**** with absolutely nothing being genuine about it. **** them all.
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Welcome to the world of lobbying and lawyering, the fees are real. Ask Senator Al.
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04-01-2012, 10:58 PM
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Pooh-Bah
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Re: Delaware IGaming and NFL betting Bill Introduced
True dat.
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04-04-2012, 09:08 AM
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Re: Delaware IGaming and NFL betting Bill Introduced
Del. outlines e-gambling
Casinos would get millions in relief as games go online [The News Journal]
... the casinos would see their licensing-fee burden reduced by a collective $7.75 million per year ... ... begin selling lottery tickets and offering casino games such as slots, blackjack, poker and roulette online, as well as on mobile phones. ... ... offerings would initially be available only to players within the state, but eventually Delaware could forge agreements with other states for interstate play. ...
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04-04-2012, 11:57 AM
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veteran
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Re: Delaware IGaming and NFL betting Bill Introduced
897k population.........not enough by itself. Looks like they won't push their luck going from parlays to real wagering on sports.
Do they mean three separate sites, or three skins on a state computer?
It would be great to pool with NJ or nv from there, though.
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04-05-2012, 10:43 PM
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stranger
Join Date: Jul 2011
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Re: Delaware IGaming and NFL betting Bill Introduced
"Markell spokesman Brian Selander said legislation to implement the plan, tentatively titled Delaware’s Gaming Competitiveness Act of 2012, is being drafted and will likely be filed sometime next week.
House Majority Leader Pete Schwartzkopf, D-Rehoboth Beach, said legislators are digesting the proposal, and though questions about online gaming will likely abound, he sees no major problems."
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04-06-2012, 11:52 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Delaware IGaming and NFL betting Bill Introduced
Any thoughts from the Delaware PPA state director?
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04-06-2012, 04:04 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Re: Delaware IGaming and NFL betting Bill Introduced
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Originally Posted by Jonaspublius
897k population.........not enough by itself.
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I know I'm being a massive bitch in the Texas legislation thread, but I could care less the size of the population. I'll take anything that means a potentially larger pool at this point.
I don't really think it'll take much to accomplish what Merge has right now, add to that the fact that the average amount of discretionary income and credit for an American >>> whoever is playing online right now. I maintain this is all mind-numbingly stupid compared to what we could have, but I gladly accept baby steps.
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04-06-2012, 06:00 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: At poker rights daily action thread
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Re: Delaware IGaming and NFL betting Bill Introduced
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Originally Posted by TeflonDawg
I know I'm being a massive bitch in the Texas legislation thread, but I could care less the size of the population. I'll take anything that means a potentially larger pool at this point.
I don't really think it'll take much to accomplish what Merge has right now, add to that the fact that the average amount of discretionary income and credit for an American >>> whoever is playing online right now. I maintain this is all mind-numbingly stupid compared to what we could have, but I gladly accept baby steps.
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TeflonDawg,
I have not studied all of your posts ... but I feel your pain!
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04-06-2012, 07:35 PM
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veteran
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Re: Delaware IGaming and NFL betting Bill Introduced
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Originally Posted by TeflonDawg
I know I'm being a massive bitch in the Texas legislation thread, but I could care less the size of the population. I'll take anything that means a potentially larger pool at this point.
I don't really think it'll take much to accomplish what Merge has right now, add to that the fact that the average amount of discretionary income and credit for an American >>> whoever is playing online right now. I maintain this is all mind-numbingly stupid compared to what we could have, but I gladly accept baby steps.
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ummmmm.........everyone is desperate, we want good news, but ponder what happens if a state intranet fails? or barely makes $? delaware has to pool. nj is the only state with a shot to manage merge peak traffic, no way the average, on its own.
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04-06-2012, 09:34 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Losing my stack to better players
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Re: Delaware IGaming and NFL betting Bill Introduced
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Originally Posted by Jonaspublius
ummmmm.........everyone is desperate, we want good news, but ponder what happens if a state intranet fails? or barely makes $? delaware has to pool. nj is the only state with a shot to manage merge peak traffic, no way the average, on its own.
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This.
Delaware can barely support a 20 table poker room at Delaware Park. The competing for gaming dollars in this area is awesomely fierce.
For iPoker to be successful in Delaware, the state must enter a pool compact. Period.
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04-08-2012, 12:49 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Re: Delaware IGaming and NFL betting Bill Introduced
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Originally Posted by DrewOnTilt
This.
Delaware can barely support a 20 table poker room at Delaware Park. The competing for gaming dollars in this area is awesomely fierce.
For iPoker to be successful in Delaware, the state must enter a pool compact. Period.
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First things first though
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