Kyl for President

Of course. He might just be saying this to get people off his butt. Not like it's gonna come back to haunt him in the next election.

Kyl doesn't even have to vote for the bill. If this means he'd consider not filibustering a Reid like bill, and would convince his conservative buddies to go along with him, then it would be a big win.

huh?

corporate america once again shifts its pieces behind the scenes

right, word from people in DC in december was that everyone but kyl had signed off on the bill. if he didnt filibuster it would have happened

It appears there is no way to know for certain, but I suspect this change in Kyl's written website position came about at around the same time Reid was pushing for his bill (December, 2010). It is no secret that Reid was seeking Kyl's assent to the bill (or at least his agreement not to block it).

What is still secret is what, if any, deal ever existed between Reid and Kyl (no, I don't know that secret) and if there is still some deal possible the next time around. This suggests maybe there still is.

Skallagrim

This is pretty amazing.

Seems that way?


We should xpost this in NVG. Also, anybody in Kyl's district needs to flood him. This guy has clout.

As my one government professor said, take everything a politician or person in power says with a grain of salt.

Glad there is a possibility, but people say one thing and do the opposite all the time so wouldn't get hopes to high

the casinos only want poker for the time being because they view that as an easy foot in the door. then slowly but surely they'll lobby to have table games added over the years

You got that right, Jack.

He made that statement around the first of the year. Right after the Reid Bill collapsed. He basically said that the cost of legal online poker will be specific prohibitions against online sports betting and casinos in the USA. This shift is what caused the sudden pairings of sites and Nevada casinos and that state bill. From my understanding everyone has gone quiet on the issue for now.

IF anything Black Friday and the DOJ will push this stance forward much faster.

I was just reading over this new statement again, and this part really struck out:

Kyl mentions the skill argument!? This is our fundamental argument, and its on his radar. Now it doesn't mean he necessarily believes it is a skill game, but he is saying that "many" believe it is. Not just a fringe or a few, but many.

Maybe the time period from the darkness (4/15) to the light (regulation) is sooner, but really, since 06, I've been tricked by little golden nuggets like this all too often. Something seems to always come along to get my hopes up, and then something inevitably squashes those hopes.

I'm willing to take any nugget I can get. The political landscape for poker in DC probably isn't going to improve much after the 2012 elections, and there's a possibility things could get much worse.

i dont quite understand this post, could u reword it?

I'm not the OP, but he is basically saying that Kyl wouldn't push through any poker only bills that don't have specific prohibition language in regards to online sportsbetting and online casinos....

would be quid pro quo style. he would be able to claim victory to his constituents about the anti onling gaming legislation...and online poker players would be placated.

my attempt to translate for kikadel:

Kyl is willing to accept a poker only bill in exchange for that bill also strengthening the UGIEA regs against online sports betting and online casino betting.

Apparently, with Kyl on board and with stronger rules against online sports betting and online casinos, some Nevada land based casinos decided to set up partnerships with the then-current online poker sites and for those casinos and sites to push out the new Nevada state bill.

Post black Friday, no one is vocal about making any deals on gaming legislation.

Ok I give up. I don't understand any of the quotes that I tried to interpret. And I'm not even going to attempt this one.

Looks that way and in this case it could be a positive shift for us and our cause.

"the doj's push with black friday is moving us to this end faster"

Are there any states that do not allow internet betting on horse racing?

to legislation? why would this be? (i have my own opinion fwiw)

well i was kinda just helping translate, but when i'm at my most optimistic i like to believe this is the case. bringing all this press and the congressional hearing (5/3) will put online poker into the world of more congressmen, and harry could make another more likely charge for tacking on legislation to something must-pass.

Jon Kyl could come out tomorrow, hold a press conference, and announce that he's decided to dedicate the rest of his final term to championing legal and readily available online poker for all adult Americans. And we won't get a federal bill passed for the president's signature before the 2012 elections.

Two words:

Spencer Bachus.

Let me know when he decides to stop "serving the banks" and start serving the people. I won't be holding my breath.

No bill is going through the house without his nod. Thanks for playing.