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10-18-2012 , 03:04 PM
im moving in this country soon,

can someone enlighten me about poker legislation in nl?

is it legal? can i have money transfered in my bank account and not asked anything?

is money transfered this way taxed somehow?

thanks!
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10-18-2012 , 07:19 PM
Live poker is tax free. Holland Casinos are owned by the government.

Online poker is officially illegal, but because the government doesn't have an online casino of their own, like Sweden and Austria, it is sort of allowed, as long as you pay taxes on your winnings.

Online poker (and gambling) winnings are taxed on a monthly basis at 29%. No carry-over of losses allowed.
Winnings include bonuses and rakeback, losses can be deducted. Related costs like buying a laptop can not.
So you better make sure every month is a winning month.

When you live 6 months+1 day in the Netherlands in the year, you're obligated to pay these taxes, and report this yourself. If not, you can count on getting fined for failing to submit a timely tax return, once they track you down.

There are a handful of people working for the Dutch tax office that are scouring the Internet full time, looking for the people behind the Holland-based screen names they see in the PokerStars tournament results and forum posts.
Bank transfers from eWallets and ATM withdrawals with Neteller cards are monitored. There is no escape

A large group of poker players are currently fighting this in court, in some sort of class action. It can take a few more years before this ends up at the Dutch supreme court, where a final ruling on the matter will be made.

It's expected that online poker will be regulated before then. The government planned on handing out online gaming licences this year, but the recent elections delayed that process.
It should happen in 2013.

Companies that are expected to apply for a licence are PokerStars, party.bwin, Unibet, Everest, Betfair, Ladbrokes, Bet365, and William Hill.

Have fun
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10-18-2012 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by brrrrrr
Live poker is tax free. Holland Casinos are owned by the government.

Online poker is officially illegal, but because the government doesn't have an online casino of their own, like Sweden and Austria, it is sort of allowed, as long as you pay taxes on your winnings.

Online poker (and gambling) winnings are taxed on a monthly basis at 29%. No carry-over of losses allowed.
Winnings include bonuses and rakeback, losses can be deducted. Related costs like buying a laptop can not.
So you better make sure every month is a winning month.

When you live 6 months+1 day in the Netherlands in the year, you're obligated to pay these taxes, and report this yourself. If not, you can count on getting fined for failing to submit a timely tax return, once they track you down.

There are a handful of people working for the Dutch tax office that are scouring the Internet full time, looking for the people behind the Holland-based screen names they see in the PokerStars tournament results and forum posts.
Bank transfers from eWallets and ATM withdrawals with Neteller cards are monitored. There is no escape

A large group of poker players are currently fighting this in court, in some sort of class action. It can take a few more years before this ends up at the Dutch supreme court, where a final ruling on the matter will be made.

It's expected that online poker will be regulated before then. The government planned on handing out online gaming licences this year, but the recent elections delayed that process.
It should happen in 2013.

Companies that are expected to apply for a licence are PokerStars, party.bwin, Unibet, Everest, Betfair, Ladbrokes, Bet365, and William Hill.

Have fun
Wonderfully informative post. Thank you.

Skallagrim
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10-19-2012 , 04:22 AM
atm withdraw with a neteller card how can they monitor.

i have a neteller card and my aunt from australia puts money in it..what does have to do with poker?
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10-19-2012 , 05:17 AM
Nothing, but the system in The Netherlands works in a way that when they send you a letter, forcing you to pay an X amount of gaming tax, it's up to you to prove that this money is not poker related.

I forgot to mention that a recent court case decided that online games offered from within the EU should be tax free for Dutch citizens.

At that moment PokerStars immediately moved all Dutch players to their .EU platform, licenced in Malta.

The Dutch government / IRS filed an appeal which is still pending, but at the moment online poker at EU based sites should be tax free.

This does not include Isle of Man, and I don't know about Gibraltar.
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02-22-2013 , 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by brrrrrr
Nothing, but the system in The Netherlands works in a way that when they send you a letter, forcing you to pay an X amount of gaming tax, it's up to you to prove that this money is not poker related.

I forgot to mention that a recent court case decided that online games offered from within the EU should be tax free for Dutch citizens.

At that moment PokerStars immediately moved all Dutch players to their .EU platform, licenced in Malta.

The Dutch government / IRS filed an appeal which is still pending, but at the moment online poker at EU based sites should be tax free.

This does not include Isle of Man, and I don't know about Gibraltar.
Is this still true?
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02-22-2013 , 06:17 AM
According to the mail i got from FTP it still holds true you don't have to pay taxes over your winnings when the pokersite is located in the EU.
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