I know what you're implying, but no previous administration prosecuted the one before it. It just isn't done.

I suspect that an Obama DOJ might investigate the housing lending and the recent speculation in oil prices, which smacks of some serious manipulation.

I would think online gambling could realize a lot less pressure.

I see little more in that letter than empty platitudes. An Obama presidency does not strike me as a win for online poker on its face, but a minor victory in that Barney Frank--who certainly is on our side would have more power and a far better chance of getting the UIGEA repealed.

Obama Cliffnotes: I will answer your question without answering your question.

I see all these articles on poker pros saying to support Obama because he will reverse the UIGEA but nowhere do I find a direct quote from Obama about this except here. And this is saying he will "look at it again if it comes up" or something like that.

So I think it is safe to say Obama is not pro online poker? He is just giving political B.S. here. If anyone has any direct quotes saying he supports online poker then please share the link.

The main thing is that he is not against it.

The republicans are actively working to completely ban us from playing poker. It is in the platform even. Obama likes poker, and is generally known to not be against it at least. He isn't going to give praises for it in the public, for it could be a big negative for him. Basically it will let Barney Frank et al. try to push legislation through without worrying about a veto from a Republican president.

"Basically it will let Barney Frank et al. try to push legislation through without worrying about a veto from a Republican president."

This is the key point. I in no way expect Obama to lead our fight, or even openly pledge minimal support. I do, however, have little doubt that he will sign whatever legislation Frank and Wexler can get passed without hesitation.

Skallagrim

I see what you guys are saying then. I thought Obama was openly supporting it by some of the posts and quotes I was seeing by top pros like Brunson and Andy Bloch and that he would be a great person to elect. Now I see what really is going on and it makes me lose faith in that anything will ever happen on the online poker scene. I hope I am wrong.

Don't lose faith, but its a hard fight. If you want to help, get involved by writing to your Representative and your Senators, and research who you vote for. This may not be as easy as some would like, but nothing worthwhile is ever easy.

Except the regs on FTP at NL200. They're easier than Dobson with a choir boy.

But you can be opposed to online gaming, but still be against the present form of the UIGEA. You can be, that is, if you are a democrat. On this issue, a democrat is allowed to distinguish between the stupidity of a gaming law but still favor the goals of that law. We saw with HR 5767 that republicans have less freedom. They, because of their party affiliation, were expected to hold the line against online gambling no matter what, no matter how stupid that line had been crafted. Some tried to vote for HR 5767 even though they still opposed online gambling, and they were quickly told by Bacchus not to do so.

It's not just about being against or for online gaming, it's also about the passion behind the position and which party you answer to.

The place where the UIGEA meets the road is in the executive branch. Obama. counseled by Wexler and others, could easily allow his administration to drag its feet on implementing and enforcing the UIGEA. In fact, his stated opposition to online gaming could help us as our opponents would have a harder time pinning it on Obama's political position. They would have to address the inadequacies of the law itself and not just criticize Obama for favoring online gaming because he, as you have pointed out, doesn’t favor online gaming.

I could even imagine an Obama administration quietly asking Congress to clarify what they mean by "illegal online gambling" and then just freezing all non-sports betting enforcement until they get that clarification. A kind of administrative HR 5767.

OTOH McCain, counseled by Kyl and others, would likely just push forward with the UIGEA no matter what.

so what's the answer Jimbo?

btw,

jimbo a troll?

gtfo

i have never known him to troll. sounds like he powns you guys and you don't like it.

So you post saying hi to him, like he is an old friend, then try to tell us he isn't a troll/etc?

Doesn't you knowing him from the past/etc ruin your credibility?

me knowing him from the past is from where i draw my conclusion. i don't know him personally, but have always thought him to be a brilliant poster.

as far as credibility, GrannyMae the poster has not had credibility on 2p2 in a long time. as soon as i continually hassled an admitted cheater that is/was part of the filthy, wretched, criminal bbv community, i have been the plague to all the did's minions. therefore, i see 2p2 as 2 communities. one of the good old days, and the one now. jimbo is from the good old days and his opinion is more valuable to me than 99.9999% of the posters here.

^troll

So basically he didnt address the issue at all...hes not going to do anything about it...but hes not gonna make it worse...

WE NEED SOME RON PAUL!!!

I like Obama's practical approach to issues. He's just not going to come out in favor of something when it could hurt him but can't help. With the polls so close, I'd actually hate for him to do this. A few tens of thousands of conservative-middle voters swinging in a state like Penn could be the difference between really changing the status quo and 4 more years and 3 supreme court justices in for life.

So, it seems clear now, as we have known, that online poker will get regulated and the Vegas casinos will starts to offer their games at least to the US players. Other sites getting licenses include PartyPoker, Ladbrokes and many skins that are on networks that do not offer their games to US players at this time. The sites that will drop heavily are sites like Stars, Tilt. Prima/Microgaming is so so. Party will again be fuller with more medium and high limit players (that's a very welcomed happening) and the low limit games get looser. That boom at the selected sites will last a couple of years at least; very good games, and after that we still have a lot more medium and high limit games going.

Source please.

his ass methinks

Who hasn't had that dream? Then woke up and had a mess to clean up? But it was still a nice wet dream.

Im still amazed that people dont get this simple concept. The right wont support it because of the religious right. The left won't support it because the "poor people" will suffer.They are even less likely to vote for anything positive now given that their leadership are basically socialists and nanny state supports to the 10th degree. Neither side is on our side.

"Simple", or "simplistic"? I think people don't "get it" because it's not supported by data. There are some on the left who oppose our right to play (Diane Feinstein comes to mind). That doesn't mean the majority do, so the comparison isn't really accurate.

The RRR have strongly opposed our liberties in this area. They managed to get a plank in the GOP platform calling for a federal ban of online gaming in 2000 and 2004. This year, they did it again. From the platform:

Also, we just had a vote in the House Finanicial Services Committee, where we lost 32-32 (ties lose). For Dems, it was 28-4. For Republicans, 3-29. Liberals like Barney Frank and Robert Wexler advocated for us and voted for it. The RRR loudly rallied against this.

For real data on Congress, check out my blog at http://theengineer.pokerplayersallia...-poker-rights/ .

WHOA!!!!!

The man, the myth, the legend.... he has returned!!!!!

The Engineer,

Has your rating for McCain changed with the addition of Palin?

Thanks

Ah yes the old exaggerated Nazi party vs. Communist party argument. Hopefully some day people will become so disgusted (is now closer than ever?) that they'll vote for Ron Paul.

I agree with Flacks to an extent. But realistically I have to choose between the one I don't like, and the one I like even less...Obama clearly takes the cake in this case.

Welcome back, TE.