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09-18-2013 , 05:42 PM
so annoying, my balance is supposed to be $1265 but it says its $165 now, wtf. i dont have anything to prove it and i dont know how i am supposed to
09-18-2013 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by YourDoom
The balances listed appear to be reflecting value for the player points as well.

I had ~68k points and have an extra $121 in my total. My brother had over 400k points and has an additional ~$1200.
Mine is an exact (to the cent) reflection of the dollar balance I had recorded in late May 2011, which also agrees with the final record in my recently-downloaded account history. I held points, tickets, medals at that time which do not appear to have been converted at all.
09-18-2013 , 05:50 PM
so annoying, my balance is supposed to be $1265 but it says its $165 now, wtf. i dont have anything to prove it, what options do i have? I know i had some tournament tickets for like 500 but that was converted to cash back in May or June of 2011, help anyone?
09-18-2013 , 06:09 PM
My friend had a couple different accounts and he wants to know how to handle getting funds off both? Or will he have to eat one account and only get funds back from one account? He knows only 1 account was supposed to be registered to him but he ended up with a 2nd one anyway.
09-18-2013 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Gags30
i believe that you're supposed to use the address of the branch where you opened your account

i've been told this by numerous banks in the past when i've sent both domestic and international wires.


although, i doubt it's that important of a field, and if it kicks the wire back, you can just put in a different address and try again...
Yea, I wasn't sure and just used the closest branch to me. I'm not even sure if the branch I opened my account at is open anymore. I haven't lived in that area in years. I wouldn't think it would matter much either though.
09-18-2013 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowC5
My friend had a couple different accounts and he wants to know how to handle getting funds off both? Or will he have to eat one account and only get funds back from one account? He knows only 1 account was supposed to be registered to him but he ended up with a 2nd one anyway.
I'd tell "your friend" that multiaccounters remissions begin Dec 1 and he should just wait and file then.
09-18-2013 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by repulse
Mine is an exact (to the cent) reflection of the dollar balance I had recorded in late May 2011, which also agrees with the final record in my recently-downloaded account history. I held points, tickets, medals at that time which do not appear to have been converted at all.
Same here.
09-18-2013 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeSchmo
I'd tell "your friend" that multiaccounters remissions begin Dec 1 and he should just wait and file then.
09-18-2013 , 07:25 PM
I never recieved an email so I submitted a new petition. After entering my information it showed my account balance at zero, although the downloaded player account history from the full tilt client showed $834 which is about what I remember to be correct.

Can I upload the downloaded excel file to the petition website as documentation for proof?
09-18-2013 , 07:38 PM
I requested a withdrawal on April 15 which was approved and deducted from my balance. I have the emails from full tilt for cash out approval but didn't receive any funds obviously. Any ideas on what to submit as dispute documentation?
09-18-2013 , 08:28 PM
Submitted with no problems (didn't try until 8:20 EST on the 18th though). Didn't even need to put a zero in front of the one number.
09-18-2013 , 08:34 PM
The bank I use wont accept deposits in the form wired transfers. Is that going to be a problem, can I possibly get a check sent to me? Can anyone help?
09-18-2013 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mindoverm
The bank I use wont accept deposits in the form wired transfers. Is that going to be a problem, can I possibly get a check sent to me? Can anyone help?
12. When and how will I be paid on my claim?
All approved Petitioners who confirm their FTP Account Balance will be paid after the Bar Date and after GCG has reviewed submitted Petitions. Funds will be paid electronically via ACH to the bank account provided with your Petition for Remission.

Last edited by LT22; 09-18-2013 at 08:38 PM. Reason: If you're that worried about it, go open a new bank account FFS. You have two months to file a petition.
09-18-2013 , 08:51 PM
I still haven't received an e-mail. I deposited on FT, I registered with the claims site months ago, I downloaded my balance from the client (it was what I remember), and I've checked my spam folder. Should I still not worry for a few days?
09-18-2013 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by swc123
When i try and fill out petetioner identification there is a red warning at the top "Object reference not set to an instance of an object".

I also cannot enter an "Email Address on file with Full Tilt" that field is locked somehow but not greyed out? Is it okay to leave this blank?

And I had to add a 0 before my petition number to even get to this page.
All that, aside from the leading zero that many have had to add, was true for me as well. I was able to submit okay.
09-18-2013 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Hat
I never recieved an email so I submitted a new petition. After entering my information it showed my account balance at zero, although the downloaded player account history from the full tilt client showed $834 which is about what I remember to be correct.

Can I upload the downloaded excel file to the petition website as documentation for proof?
Same here. Do we know what the process is for people who no longer have access to the email address provided? Should we be worried about the amount being $0.00 or is that just because they have not verified and connected the account we put into the claim with what they have on file?
09-18-2013 , 08:59 PM
Claim submitted. Balance is correct including Take 2 Promo paid in May, rakeback paid in May, and tourney ticket converted to cash in May. Weeeeeee, GL everybody.
09-18-2013 , 09:01 PM
All my responses below are just my opinion. It is not possible to know for sure at this point what GCG can or will accept as documented proof of a claim, what items they will accept as valid for remissions, and how trying to dispute the claim for redemption of non-cash items (medals, points, tournament tickets, etc.) will affect acceptance or denial of a claim (although I don't think any dispute will result in denial of at least the cash balance amount they have on record). That information probably won't be known until GCG starts accepting and denying claims after the close of the claims petition window on Nov. 16th.

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Originally Posted by brockwilson
so annoying, my balance is supposed to be $1265 but it says its $165 now, wtf. i dont have anything to prove it, what options do i have? I know i had some tournament tickets for like 500 but that was converted to cash back in May or June of 2011, help anyone?
Does it say $165 when you download your account history from FTP, or just on the GCG web site? See the Remissions Sticky for instructions on getting your account history from the new FTP. If it says $165 on FTP, what makes you think it is supposed to be $1265? Account balances don't include tournament tickets, medals, FTP points, etc. You can dispute your claim amount on GCG if you want to try to get cash value for such items as well (and can provide documented proof). It is unknown at this point if such items will be accepted as valid for a claim, and how claiming such items will affect acceptance or denial of a claim petition.

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Originally Posted by SlowC5
My friend had a couple different accounts and he wants to know how to handle getting funds off both? Or will he have to eat one account and only get funds back from one account? He knows only 1 account was supposed to be registered to him but he ended up with a 2nd one anyway.
Did he get an email for either account from GCG with Petition and Control #s? This would be a good indication of what he could claim. He can always try submitting a New Petition for either or both accounts if he didn't get such an email. The worst that should happen is that one or the other gets denied. The fact that he had more than one account should affect whether or not he gets denied, imo. The GCG and the DOJ are unlikely to be concerned with the matter of multiple accounts for one player.

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Originally Posted by Black Hat
I never recieved an email so I submitted a new petition. After entering my information it showed my account balance at zero, although the downloaded player account history from the full tilt client showed $834 which is about what I remember to be correct.

Can I upload the downloaded excel file to the petition website as documentation for proof?
Yes. You might want to also write a note of explanation to go along with, and download that as a document as well.

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Originally Posted by ozora tsubasa
I requested a withdrawal on April 15 which was approved and deducted from my balance. I have the emails from full tilt for cash out approval but didn't receive any funds obviously. Any ideas on what to submit as dispute documentation?
Your player account history from FTP.
Your emails from FTP.
Bank statements from the relevant bank account for the next three months (showing no corresponding deposit).
A letter of explanation.

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Originally Posted by mindoverm
The bank I use wont accept deposits in the form wired transfers. Is that going to be a problem, can I possibly get a check sent to me? Can anyone help?
GCG will pay the remission by ACH transfer. This is different than a wire transfer. It is in essence an electronic check, sent to your bank by your bank account number and the bank's routing number.

Actually, almost all paper checks are also paid by ACH transfer after you deposit them at your bank. It's how the banking system works. The paper checks eventually make it to the other bank, but first the transaction is completed by ACH.

By the way, what sort of bank doesn't accept wire transfers?

Last edited by PokerXanadu; 09-18-2013 at 09:10 PM.
09-18-2013 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGunslinger
I still haven't received an e-mail. I deposited on FT, I registered with the claims site months ago, I downloaded my balance from the client (it was what I remember), and I've checked my spam folder. Should I still not worry for a few days?
i'm in the same boat.. this is depressing...
09-18-2013 , 09:04 PM
Woo hoo.

09-18-2013 , 09:10 PM
- got the notification e-mail to my Gmail (which is what I registered with the FullTiltPokerClaims site several months ago). This was not the e-mail I had linked to FTP, so as such, it did not contain either of the numbers needed to log on, check balance, and file petition.
- upon recieving this, went to me e-mail account linked to FTP and didn't see an e-mail. checked my spam box and sure enough, it was in there and contained both numbers
- checked the site this morning but it still hadn't been updated from 17th version
- checked again this afternoon and the "File a Petition for Remission" button had been added
- entered the 2 numbers and the verification data and kept getting a "petition # not valid" error
- logged on here and saw the tip to add a zero to the beginning of that number. when I tried it like that, it accepted it and I proceeded through the process with no issues

Balance: the balance it showed for me was about $50 more than was in my records (kept right up to 4/15) so I assume that there were a couple of residual rakeback payments that hit my account after the site was shut down.

For people asking about when the payouts are expected to happen... since they have to wait until the 11/16 deadline to calculate whether or not they will have to allocate/prorate (in case of a shortfall of funds received from the PS deal vs total of actual claims via this process), there is no way anyone will see money before 11/16. How long it takes this company to process the EFT's after that date is anyone's guess. In theory, if even relatively recent technology and processes are being used, one would think that most people would see their $ before the end of the year. However, since this company is a sub-contractor for the US Government (and given how long it has taken them just to set this much up), I'd be willing to bet we'd be looking at the first part of 2014. Frankly, I would prefer an early '14 payout as then I get to use that money all year before having to report and pay taxes on the profit piece, but that's just me.

Anyway, I am really curious as to what (if any) shortfall there is going to be. At this point I am just happy that it looks like we will be getting something back, but I certainly hope we're gonna be in the realm of at least 75-80% rather than half or less. If it is the latter, someone in the government/DOJ really screwed up big time, but that wouldnt be the first (or last) time that happened
09-18-2013 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Used2Play
i'm in the same boat.. this is depressing...
According to the FAQ on the site, they expect some bounces and are supposedly going to re-send e-mails over the next few days. I doubt a call to them at this point will result in any action, so I would say give it till the weekend and if you still dont have anything, proceed to contact them.
09-18-2013 , 09:17 PM
GCG says on their website that they're continuing to resend these emails. I hope everyone gets theirs and is able to apply soon.

Last edited by Rich Muny; 09-18-2013 at 09:18 PM. Reason: slow pony :-)
09-18-2013 , 09:24 PM
My submission just went through succesfully but I was wondering one thing. I had withdrawn about 10k from this account that I didnt pay taxes on over the course of a year, do any of you honestly think they will tax me on my refund? My refund is only 5.5k sure hope not
09-18-2013 , 09:33 PM
I just did mine. They had my balance exactly right. I also had 55,199.03 FTP and 1 Iron Man Freeroll ticket that were not taken into account. I took a screenshot of my cashier on April 15, 2011 so I know the numbers exactly. I may have additionally had Iron Man medals though ... guess I didn't think to take a screenshot of that.


But anyway ... it matched the cash exactly .... nothing for anything else.

      
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