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10-29-2013 , 04:37 PM
How long does it normally take to get a control and petition number after the request? I requested mine on Oct 22. I got the auto reply that said someone would respond shortly. Today is Oct 29 and I haven't heard anything.
10-29-2013 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rwperu34
How long does it normally take to get a control and petition number after the request? I requested mine on Oct 22. I got the auto reply that said someone would respond shortly. Today is Oct 29 and I haven't heard anything.
A week is normal, but you can call them and probably get it right away over the phone.
10-30-2013 , 11:38 AM
If you immediately got a petition and control number and balance was correct. That pretty much mean you have no issues to worry about?

Based upon past FTP dealings I think people still worried about last minute messups.
10-30-2013 , 08:56 PM
Got this email today (nothing significant - just of interest):

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Dear Petitioner,

Our records indicate that you logged onto the Full Tilt Poker (“FTP”) Claims Administration website and began to fill out a Petition for Remission. However, your Petition has not yet been submitted. In order to be potentially eligible for payment, you must complete your Petition in full and submit it on or before November 16, 2013.

To complete your Petition, please visit the FTP administration website at www.FullTiltPokerClaims.com and click on the “File a Petition for Remission” tab. You may logon using the Petition and Control Numbers previously assigned and follow the instructions provided on the website. Should you have any questions, please email us at info@fulltiltpokerclaims.com or call us toll-free at (866) 250-2640. If you recently completed your Petition and received an email confirmation of its submission, you may disregard this email.

The only exception to the November 16, 2013 filing deadline is for players who signed up with FTP as Affiliates. For more information about the separate filing process for Affiliates, please visit the administration website.

Please be advised that submission of a Petition for Remission does not guarantee that you are eligible to participate in the Full Tilt Poker remission process. All payments are subject to approval by the Asset Forfeiture and Money Laundering Section of the United States Department of Justice.

Regards,
The Claims Administrator
10-31-2013 , 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jeffg576
If you immediately got a petition and control number and balance was correct. That pretty much mean you have no issues to worry about?

Based upon past FTP dealings I think people still worried about last minute messups.
Did they ask you to enter what you thought the balance should be or did it tell you your balance? I had to enter a number then it asked for me to submit docs...been trying to get my password and username for over a week. No idea what my old email was or anything else
10-31-2013 , 08:57 AM
Just of potential interest:

When the e-mails were being sent out regarding claims, I never actually received one. The amount of money was inconsequential to me; I started with money from a freeroll, and in reading, I figured that since I hadn't actually made a deposit, I was going to be out of luck from reading the terms and conditions. Figured I might file a claim for the money if time permitted.

Got a postcard in the mail yesterday from:

Full Tilt Poker Claims Administration
c/o GCG
P.O. Box 9965
Dublin, Ohio 43017-5965

The text on the reverse side reads as follows:

This postcard is to inform you that the Claims Administrator has attempted to email you a Notice in connection with the Full Tilt Poker ("FTP") Claims Administration, but the email address we have on file does not appear to be valid.

In order to be potentially eligible to receive a payment, you must file a petition online at the administration website, www.fulltiltpokerclaims.com by November 16, 2013. To facilitate your filing, and to view your FTP Account Balance, please contact us to obtain login filing credentials. You may call us toll free at (866) 250-2640 or email us at Info@FullTiltPokerClaims.com.

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Just figured I'd post, in part because the lack of e-mail made me think I was out of luck. Will keep folks updated.
10-31-2013 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerXanadu
IMO, this means that your first deposit to your FTP account was from freeroll winnings. The statement doesn't say that you made a "cash or credit card" deposit. You can file a claim and they will let you know if you are ineligible after reviewing your petition. Or, you can wait a little bit to file and see if the GCG answers this question with new information. You have until Nov 16 to file.
Would it follow that you believe player-to-player transfers also qualify as deposits? I'm inclined to believe so, given:

1) I was able to receive remission for my Stars account despite funding my account with a player-to-player transfer.

2) Full Tilt Withdrawal requirements have always stated that making a deposit was necessary to cash out of a given account, yet I was able to cash out on their as well many times prior to Black Friday.

Has the PPA received any definitive answers on the issue of accounts being funded with player-to-player transfers? This transfer occurred in 2008-2009, well before any of the phantom deposits if that makes a difference.
10-31-2013 , 10:12 PM
Quick question.. When filling out my petition I need to enter my player ID, if my ID were (full tilt king) for example, how would I deal with the spaces? They don't allow spaces in the petition and I was not sure if they should just be omitted?
11-01-2013 , 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MT656
Would it follow that you believe player-to-player transfers also qualify as deposits? I'm inclined to believe so, given:

1) I was able to receive remission for my Stars account despite funding my account with a player-to-player transfer.

2) Full Tilt Withdrawal requirements have always stated that making a deposit was necessary to cash out of a given account, yet I was able to cash out on their as well many times prior to Black Friday.

Has the PPA received any definitive answers on the issue of accounts being funded with player-to-player transfers? This transfer occurred in 2008-2009, well before any of the phantom deposits if that makes a difference.
Did you receive an email from GCG with a petition and control number?
11-01-2013 , 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MT656
Would it follow that you believe player-to-player transfers also qualify as deposits?
Yes.

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Originally Posted by k4cowboys4k
Quick question.. When filling out my petition I need to enter my player ID, if my ID were (full tilt king) for example, how would I deal with the spaces? They don't allow spaces in the petition and I was not sure if they should just be omitted?
I'd put it in without spaces, and follow up with an email to GCG to explain.
11-01-2013 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by TheEngineer
Did you receive an email from GCG with a petition and control number?
I've already filed. I'm assuming that if you have no connection to any Red Pros via transfer or FTP employees, you have a positive account balance, and you did not make a phantom deposit via bank account circa 2010-2011, then you would also meet the deposit criteria?

Last edited by MT656; 11-01-2013 at 11:45 AM.
11-01-2013 , 02:36 PM
The fiancee didn't get the petition and control number email, but I was able to get them to send another email with the info so she could make a claim. I would say what they say she has is what she had.

What worries me is I got an email thanking me for submitting a claim as if I was her. I fired off a response saying I just contacted them to get them to send her the info she needed and I didn't submit a claim for her. Hopefully they understand and don't think I was multiaccounting. This was over a week ago and haven't heard anything back.

As I only had under a dollar on my account, I did check to see what they showed as my balance but didn't make a claim for it.

Last edited by Doc T River; 11-01-2013 at 02:38 PM. Reason: Would be nice if we got it before Christmas....of 2014.
11-02-2013 , 06:42 PM
So just making sure...once you get your petition and control number, log in, and state your balance is correct, youre done right? Im neurotic and have >30k on there. Is there anything else i need to do??
11-02-2013 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by clockworkorange89
So just making sure...once you get your petition and control number, log in, and state your balance is correct, youre done right? Im neurotic and have >30k on there. Is there anything else i need to do??
Yes, should be, if you completed the online submission process. You should also get a confirmation email from GCG right after submitting. If not, call them to confirm that your petition is completed.
11-03-2013 , 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by WotPeed
That should make the review process go pretty quickly. Yay for us.
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Originally Posted by TheEngineer
I think he was being sarcastic Rich.

Thanks for this thread being around because I started wondering if there was anything more if the fiancée needed to do but reading the thread shows me she did everything.

Would be nice to get the money back soon so she could use it to buy me into a live tourney.
11-04-2013 , 01:44 AM
if i filed an appeal just yesterday, when do i find out if my balance was changed to amount I said? Bc i need to confirm the balance before nov 16 right?
11-04-2013 , 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by brockwilson
if i filed an appeal just yesterday, when do i find out if my balance was changed to amount I said? Bc i need to confirm the balance before nov 16 right?
We'll assume by "appeal" you mean "claim". Once you file a claim, you won't hear anything until the claims are settled - sometime well after Nov. 16th. I think you are saying that you disputed your balance amount and claimed a different amount. If you completed submission of your petition with this disputed amount, then you are all set for now. If you didn't get a confirmation email right after from GCG confirming your petition submission (not the amount, just confirming that you submitted the petition), then you should call GCG to confirm.

Last edited by PokerXanadu; 11-04-2013 at 09:27 AM.
11-04-2013 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerXanadu
We'll assume by "appeal" you mean "claim". Once you file a claim, you won't hear anything until the claims are settled - sometime well after Nov. 16th. I think you are saying that you disputed your balance amount and claimed a different amount. If you completed submission of your petition with this disputed amount, then you are all set for now. If you didn't get a confirmation email right after from GCG confirming your petition submission (not the amount, just confirming that you submitted the petition), then you should call GCG to confirm.
Has any general timeline been given for payouts?
11-04-2013 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffg576
Has any general timeline been given for payouts?
they said faster than ever, but it usually takes years, so faster than years.
11-04-2013 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffg576
Has any general timeline been given for payouts?
No.
11-04-2013 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc T River
I think he was being sarcastic Rich.
Definitely. I was posting the "surprised" emoticon at my typo.

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Thanks for this thread being around because I started wondering if there was anything more if the fiancée needed to do but reading the thread shows me she did everything.
You're good there.
11-04-2013 , 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffg576
Has any general timeline been given for payouts?
Our efforts in sending a few UB/AP remissions claims through the FTP claims administrator's website and in taking grassroots actions such as sending the DoJ many tweets on this issue have helped us generate attention within DoJ on this matter. PPA Executive Director John Pappas and a PPA attorney had a conference call today with the DoJ Asset Forfeiture and Money Laundering Section (AFMLS) to discuss both the Cereus situation and FTP remission.

The conference call went well. PPA was able to present our case that SDNY should bring fraud charges in the matter of UB/AP and that remission should be set up for the victims of these sites. AFMLS led off by commending PPA and the poker community in being well organized and in continuing to take our case to the DoJ (I didn't add any hyperbole...that was the comment). They discussed ways we can push SDNY to charge Cereus with fraud, including a formal request by us sometime after the FTP remission bar date -- which PPA will do. This continues to be a long shot, of course, but at least we're working up the ladder.

We also have clarification on submissions of Cereus claims through the FTP remission site. They found the approach of using the KY settlement intriguing (Gzesh had that right for sure...it drove a review, where a submission without any tie-in would have been summarily rejected). We won't prevail there, though, so let's not submit any more via that method. We succeeded in sending the message that UB/AP victims were defrauded and deserve compensation.

The FTP discussion went well. AFLMS told us 80% of those with petition and control numbers accepted the balance provided and that roughly 35,000 claims have been filed. They reported that affiliate balances are still being determined and that these folks will have 30 days to review and submit their petitions (that part regarding the thirty days is on the claims site already).

The new news for FTP is that remission checks for uncontested balances are "optimistically" expected to go out before the end of the first quarter of 2014.
11-05-2013 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TheEngineer
The new news for FTP is that remission checks for uncontested balances are "optimistically" expected to go out before the end of the first quarter of 2014.
Guess I shouldn't be shocked at this point but the thought of this taking another 6 months to get money in hand after this long is a such a joke.
11-05-2013 , 05:22 PM
Remission checks?

I thought they were wiring our balances?
11-05-2013 , 05:39 PM
if you don't get an answer in 2 hours you should probably ask again in another different thread.

      
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