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09-26-2013 , 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by OneByPhi
Maybe this has already been covered and I missed the answer, but the FTP remission site wants my SSN, my bank accout number and the routing number--an identify thief's trifecta. Is gnginc.com safe and legit? I hate like hell to put this info out here, but I could use the cash right now. I apologize in advance if this is just paranoia.
FWIW, I keep a spare checking account open (Free) for situations just like this. My balance in that account is really low, so if I am ever stupid and give the bank/account info to a thief, the most they can pilfer is $100. A good account to use for IRS refunds too!
09-26-2013 , 11:28 AM
Has there been any word about people (like my dumba$$) who tried to cash out on black Friday before the site went down?

I tried to cash out half my balance and just want to see if I'll be getting that money back, or at least if there is a way to prove that transaction was made so I can file a claim.

Thanks
09-26-2013 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TheEngineer
Yes, file no matter what.
We all know to file no matter what. I think the real question is should we make a reasonable effort to get the petition and control numbers from GCG or find out why we won't get the numbers before we just blindly file a new petition? There's plenty of time before the deadline.
09-26-2013 , 03:45 PM
I finally got my email with petition and control #s. My balance is correct except for the withdrawal I attempted on 4/15/2011 that was "approved" but I obviously never received.

I am going to appeal and wanted feedback on this letter and the evidence I intend submit to support my appeal.

September 26, 2013

Dear Full Tilt Poker Claims Administration,

I am including this letter, along with other documents, to appeal the amount of money that I am due in the Full Tilt Poker Settlement Claims case. I believe the figure you provided to me on your website is correct except missing the withdrawal that I attempted, but never received, on April 15, 2011. Along with this letter, I will include:

1. An excel spreadsheet that I downloaded from Full Tilt Poker showing my account balance and all transactions on the day of April 15, 2011. This is the day from which the calculation formula for the Petition for Remission is to be based upon as per your website’s FAQs. Please note line 96 shows a bank transfer withdrawal of funds totalling $XXXX. My total at the end of that day was $XXXX but when adding back in the $XXXX should be $XXXX. Your website reports that I am due $XXXX. I believe this small discrepancy reflects some minor adjustments FTP made to my account after April 15, 2011 maybe for rakeback or tournament dollars.

2. A copy of an email from FTP stating that my bank transfer withdrawal for $XXXX, dated April 15, 2011, has been approved and should be in my bank account in 10 to 15 days. Usually it was much quicker.

3. Two months bank statements showing that I never received the withdrawal for $XXXX dated April 15, 2011. If you want more let me know.

Although this withdrawal was reported to be approved, I never received it. I doubt anyone who tried to withdraw their money on April 15,2011 received it. I believe that the total that I am due is $XXXX if the effective date of my appeal is April 15, 2011 or $XXXX if adjustments made post April 15, 2011 are credited.

If there is any more evidence I should include, please let me know.

Sincerely,
XXXXX

Is there any feedback or anything else I should submit for this appeal?

Is there any reason to wait to file my appeal at this point?

Feedback is appreciated and sorry post is so long.
09-26-2013 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by djmeehan
I finally got my email with petition and control #s. My balance is correct except for the withdrawal I attempted on 4/15/2011 that was "approved" but I obviously never received.

I am going to appeal and wanted feedback on this letter and the evidence I intend submit to support my appeal.

September 26, 2013

Dear Full Tilt Poker Claims Administration,

I am including this letter, along with other documents, to appeal the amount of money that I am due in the Full Tilt Poker Settlement Claims case. I believe the figure you provided to me on your website is correct except missing the withdrawal that I attempted, but never received, on April 15, 2011. Along with this letter, I will include:

1. An excel spreadsheet that I downloaded from Full Tilt Poker showing my account balance and all transactions on the day of April 15, 2011. This is the day from which the calculation formula for the Petition for Remission is to be based upon as per your website’s FAQs. Please note line 96 shows a bank transfer withdrawal of funds totalling $XXXX. My total at the end of that day was $XXXX but when adding back in the $XXXX should be $XXXX. Your website reports that I am due $XXXX. I believe this small discrepancy reflects some minor adjustments FTP made to my account after April 15, 2011 maybe for rakeback or tournament dollars.

2. A copy of an email from FTP stating that my bank transfer withdrawal for $XXXX, dated April 15, 2011, has been approved and should be in my bank account in 10 to 15 days. Usually it was much quicker.

3. Two months bank statements showing that I never received the withdrawal for $XXXX dated April 15, 2011. If you want more let me know.

Although this withdrawal was reported to be approved, I never received it. I doubt anyone who tried to withdraw their money on April 15,2011 received it. I believe that the total that I am due is $XXXX if the effective date of my appeal is April 15, 2011 or $XXXX if adjustments made post April 15, 2011 are credited.

If there is any more evidence I should include, please let me know.

Sincerely,
XXXXX

Is there any feedback or anything else I should submit for this appeal?

Is there any reason to wait to file my appeal at this point?

Feedback is appreciated and sorry post is so long.
This is pretty much what I'm going to upload (I'm in the same boat). The email I received from fulltilt cashier has a transaction ID which they should be able to trace to a bank deposit or check that was never deposited or cashed. I'm not sure the bank statement proves anything as you could have had other accounts. In any case it doesn't hurt.

I can't think of anything else we can include to further strengthen our case.
09-26-2013 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerXanadu

I got an e-mail from do-not-reply@fulltiltpokerclaims.com after I submitted my petition. Should that one be on your list or do I have something I need to look into here?
09-27-2013 , 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Lego05
I got an e-mail from do-not-reply@fulltiltpokerclaims.com after I submitted my petition. Should that one be on your list or do I have something I need to look into here?
That should be on my list as well. I was unaware of this one as I never completed my petition. I only have 18 cents balance on FTP.
09-27-2013 , 03:57 PM
"Dear Mr. Schneider,

Thank you for your email. The following persons are excluded from the Remission process and are not eligible for payment from the Full Tilt Poker ("FTP") Fund:

 A past or present employee of FTP or any of its past or present affiliates;

 A past or present vendor of FTP that received compensation through FTP players’ accounts;

 A past or present Team Full Tilt player;

 A past or present shareholder of FTP, Tiltware LLC, Kolyma Corporation A.V.V., Pocket Kings Ltd., Pocket Kings Consulting Ltd., Filco Ltd., Vantage Ltd., Ranston Ltd., Mail Media Ltd., or Full Tilt Poker Ltd.;

 A past or present officer or director of FTP, Tiltware LLC, Kolyma Corporation A.V.V., Pocket Kings Ltd., Pocket Kings Consulting Ltd., Filco Ltd., Vantage Ltd., Ranston Ltd., Mail Media Ltd., or Full Tilt Poker Ltd., or any of their past or present affiliates;

 A defendant in any civil action or a claimant in any forfeiture action brought by the Department of Justice related to the violations alleged in this action, or any related action (or any of his or her affiliates, assigns, heirs, distributees, spouses, parents, children, or controlled entities); or

A person who, as of the Bar Date, has been the subject of criminal charges related to the violations alleged in this action, or any related action (or any of his or her affiliates, assigns, heirs, distributees, spouses, parents, children, or controlled entities).

Based on data supplied to us by FTP you have been identified as a pro player of FTP and will not be eligible to participate in this remission process.

Regards,

Claims Administrator
Info@FullTiltPokerClaims.com
(866) 250-2640"



Received that a few minutes ago after submitting an email request using the template in these threads... So on a scale of 100% screwed, 90% screwed, etc., how screwed are the regular red pros?

Yes I will still be filing a petition on their site eventually, just going to wait a bit longer for the smoke to clear and hoping somehow the GCG gets convinced to change their view.
09-27-2013 , 04:06 PM
I am crossposting this in both the NVG thread and here.

Hi Guys,

I had emailed GCG a few times to the info@ email address and still not heard back from them with a petition and control #. 3-4 days ago.

I just got off the phone with them again and there appears to be a shift in policy and it seems that if they have your petition and control #'s available they will provide them over the phone. I got mine.

I went on to fill out the information. There are several things that are worth noting.

0. My amount was as expected based on May 20, 2013. They must believe that the tournament tickets and other things that were available to you on April 15 included these amounts in your April 15 balance.
1. You will need your bank address. For my bank this is where I opened the account.
2. You will need the bank ACH routing number. This is not necessarily your checking account routing number. For my bank it is not the same.
3. You appear not to be able to go in and edit information after you have submitted. I have no idea what process follows if you mess up any of these details but I would guess at some point you will be able to edit the information if you made mistakes.

Best,
zero
09-28-2013 , 06:43 AM
This is the last email I've received since submitting my balance claim documentation.

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Dear Petitioner,

Thank you for your email. All submitted documentation will be evaluated as part of the balance determination process. All approved Petitioners who confirm their FTP Account Balance will be paid after the Bar Date and after GCG has reviewed submitted Petitions. Funds will be paid electronically via ACH to the bank account provided with your Petition for Remission.


Regards,

Claims Administrator (MB)

Is this a good sign that my uploaded document for proof of balance has been accepted? It doesn't say whether I've been confirmed or denied.

BTW, thanks PPA and PPA reps for helping us in this matter.
09-28-2013 , 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Hat
This is the last email I've received since submitting my balance claim documentation.


Is this a good sign that my uploaded document for proof of balance has been accepted? It doesn't say whether I've been confirmed or denied.

BTW, thanks PPA and PPA reps for helping us in this matter.
No, it doesn't mean that. It just means that they received your completed petition. They probably won't review your petition until after the bar date.
09-28-2013 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Schneids
"Dear Mr. Schneider,

Thank you for your email. The following persons are excluded from the Remission process and are not eligible for payment from the Full Tilt Poker ("FTP") Fund: [snip]

Based on data supplied to us by FTP you have been identified as a pro player of FTP and will not be eligible to participate in this remission process.

Regards,

Claims Administrator
Info@FullTiltPokerClaims.com
(866) 250-2640"



Received that a few minutes ago after submitting an email request using the template in these threads... So on a scale of 100% screwed, 90% screwed, etc., how screwed are the regular red pros?

Yes I will still be filing a petition on their site eventually, just going to wait a bit longer for the smoke to clear and hoping somehow the GCG gets convinced to change their view.
The issue isn't GCG--they're just following the DOJ's directives. My suspicion is that the DOJ is lumping everything into one basket (anyone who was a pro), so the fight for people like you will be long and hard.

You may need to hire an attorney familiar with remission claims. He or she might be able to present your supporting documentation in a way that will lead to a better chance of your claim being approved, in part or in whole.
09-28-2013 , 01:03 PM
Not sure if this has been posted, I don't read this thread anymore, but I did not get an email with a petition number initially. So on sept. 19th I sent am email saying I should have, and they replied with my petition and control number that should have been sent out. And it had my ending balance (was missing my never received withdrawls check) but at least I got something out of It. Hopefully helps people who may not have gotten the email.
09-28-2013 , 01:56 PM
Thanks! I did not get the second email containing the P&C's. I just sent email to info@FullTiltPokerClaims.com to hopefully have mine sent. Are they pretty much done sending out the P&C's?
09-28-2013 , 06:10 PM
I didn't get an email from them. I called and spoke to someone and was told I'd get a call back. That didn't happen. This past Sunday I emailed saying I didn't receive anything and included a new e-mail address in case hotmail was bouncing it. 5 business days later they replied back to my old (hotmail) email with the P&C. Glad this drama is to rest...for now...
09-28-2013 , 11:19 PM
filed my petition, said they confirmed my filing. Nothing else is new. Is anyone's filing confirmed?
09-29-2013 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerXanadu
They probably won't review your petition until after the bar date.
Is it possible to get them to look at it earlier by bugging them via phone/email? Their offer was $6,000 below my actual balance (3 in transit cashouts), so I'm pretty anxious about whether they liked my "proof" of the discrepancy or if they might want some additional documents.
09-29-2013 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by highland
Is it possible to get them to look at it earlier by bugging them via phone/email? Their offer was $6,000 below my actual balance (3 in transit cashouts), so I'm pretty anxious about whether they liked my "proof" of the discrepancy or if they might want some additional documents.
Highly unlikely they will do anything other than to tell you to wait. They have to get all petitions before they can do any payouts. Even then, they may have to resolve all disputes and appeals before they do any payouts. Just the standard legal process for a remission.
09-29-2013 , 01:08 PM
I understand that the payouts to everyone will all come at the same time, some number of months after the end of the window for claiming. I am very interested to find out whether they accepted my disputed balance or not before then.

There should be a lot of people in the same situation as me, maybe the PPA is already looking into it. Anyone who requested a cashout via check from April 1-15 or so will be shortchanged by GCGs table lookup. My April 1 check actually arrived in the mail on April 15th and was written against a nonexistent account (i.e. seized).
09-29-2013 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by highland
I understand that the payouts to everyone will all come at the same time, some number of months after the end of the window for claiming. I am very interested to find out whether they accepted my disputed balance or not before then.

There should be a lot of people in the same situation as me, maybe the PPA is already looking into it. Anyone who requested a cashout via check from April 1-15 or so will be shortchanged by GCGs table lookup. My April 1 check actually arrived in the mail on April 15th and was written against a nonexistent account (i.e. seized).
If they don't accept your remission request you will be able to appeal their decision. There first decision will not be final.
09-29-2013 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Schneids
"Dear Mr. Schneider,

Thank you for your email. The following persons are excluded from the Remission process and are not eligible for payment from the Full Tilt Poker ("FTP") Fund.....
Mike,

I shared this with PPA, as discussed prior. Our lawyers are preparing a response to GCG now. I was sent a draft and replied with some comments.

I recommend you reply to GCG (if it came from "do-not-reply@fulltiltpokerclaims.com", change that to Info@FullTiltPokerClaims.com), stating that you were not one the 14 members of Team Full Tilt and that you were simply a sponsored pro -- no different from a sponsored golfer -- with no ownership stake. Then, politely ask them to reevaluate their ruling.

If you get a response, can you forward it to me?

I'll Skype you as well.
09-30-2013 , 11:11 AM
Has the GCG responded with answers to any of those questions on that sheet? Or will the PPA be putting it up as an additional FAQ once they are all responded to?
09-30-2013 , 01:53 PM
Once you get the email with the petition and control number you're done right?
09-30-2013 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by clockworkorange89
Once you get the email with the petition and control number you're done right?
you have to log into their site with that info, enter all your details, and agree, and then your done....
09-30-2013 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by clockworkorange89
Once you get the email with the petition and control number you're done right?
Once you submit your petition through the claims web site, you are done (unless later you are asked for more documentation or you need to appeal a denial). The P&C#s are just what you use to logon to the claims web site, or refer to your claim in correspondence with GCG.

      
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