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09-24-2013 , 05:23 PM
any word on when payments will be going out?
09-24-2013 , 06:46 PM
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Just want to ask the experts one more time in reference to a staked friend. Is there ANY logical reason to hold off filing the remissions claim right now if the balance appears accurate? Because you only get one shot, I've seen speculation that should somehow stuff like FTPs or anything else be honored in an adjusted claim request, it would be beneficial to wait a few weeks to see if any revelations like that come up.

If the chances of that are 0% or very close to 0% and you suggest just filing right away, that's fine too, just want to hear what you guys think.
Going to make one last try at the above question...Any thoughts?
09-24-2013 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mindoverm
any word on when payments will be going out?
No.
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Originally Posted by insidemanpoker
Going to make one last try at the above question...Any thoughts?
I'd wait a week or two to see how things shake out if you have points or other awards that could be claimed. Or, submit a claim dispute now and claim anything that might have cash value in addition to your balance.
09-24-2013 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Schneids
Watching these threads closely... Hoping to hear from the PPA that they are able to have some intimate conversations with the GCG regarding their restrictions and get them lightened so that people such as players who signed up a few friends, on up to red pros who took a deal that 100% of the poker playing population would've taken if offered, are allowed to get their money (in the red pros case, we had no clue what was happening at full tilt and no control over the situation. We are victims too).

Like others who have gotten shut out so far, awaiting to hear any suggestions on how/when to submit a petition for remission.

Thanks PPA for any help you're able to give us these coming days/weeks!
Schneids,

Hi. PPA is continuing the dialog with GCG on this. GCG has applied the same criteria they'd apply to any other fraud case. We're working to dissuade them from the strict application of this, as these are simple sponsorships and as they have plenty of money for 100% restitution.
09-25-2013 , 07:37 AM
LOL it just occurred to me they are probably taking mine since I got something a couple months ago saying they disputed something on my 2011 taxes in the neighborhood of what my balance is. (Letting my accountant review that when he does my taxes next year, not a big enough amount to incur a $150 bill for resolving it stand alone, and the IRS is probably right.)
09-25-2013 , 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by fnord_too
LOL it just occurred to me they are probably taking mine since I got something a couple months ago saying they disputed something on my 2011 taxes in the neighborhood of what my balance is. (Letting my accountant review that when he does my taxes next year, not a big enough amount to incur a $150 bill for resolving it stand alone, and the IRS is probably right.)
So you're going to wait like 5-9 months from a notice you got from the IRS? That's genius!
09-25-2013 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by LT22
So you're going to wait like 5-9 months from a notice you got from the IRS? That's genius!
Yeah, they said they had a different number for student loan interest, so I was refunded too much in their opinion. Worse case is they are right and the charge me a very reasonable interest rate that they call a penalty from like 60 days after the notice. I'll just have my accountant look at it when he does my taxes, and if the IRS is right, no biggie; if they are wrong, also no biggie. If the amount was really high I would probably chase it down now.

Strange but true, the IRS is actually pretty easy to work with in my experience.
09-25-2013 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by fnord_too
Yeah, they said they had a different number for student loan interest, so I was refunded too much in their opinion. Worse case is they are right and the charge me a very reasonable interest rate that they call a penalty from like 60 days after the notice. I'll just have my accountant look at it when he does my taxes, and if the IRS is right, no biggie; if they are wrong, also no biggie. If the amount was really high I would probably chase it down now.

Strange but true, the IRS is actually pretty easy to work with in my experience.
There is likely a date by which you need to respond if you disagree. I suggest you read the letter.
09-25-2013 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by LT22
There is likely a date by which you need to respond if you disagree. I suggest you read the letter.
There was, but I don't think that matters except for the purposes of charging interest if they are right. Pretty sure you can go back and file amended tax returns for years, so if they are wrong no harm, if they are right, I would still just eat the interest since it is so low and have next years return lowered.

Anyway, ima shut up about it since we are pretty far off topic.
09-25-2013 , 10:38 AM
OK - I have actually skimmed the entire thread and didn't see an answer to the question:

"How exactly was my balance calculated?"

I finished my petition today and their balance was almost $20 higher than my actual balance on 4/17/2011. I was able to log in on that day and took a picture of my open account. Trust me, I'm not really concerned about the $20, just wondering how it was derived. I had $509.68, T$4.40, and over 30K in FTP points.

Any one out there figured out how that adds up to $529.86?
09-25-2013 , 10:48 AM
You may have had a rake back payment credited after that date. My balance reflected a rake back payment a week or two after BF. if you log in and request your account history (instruction in the thread I think) it should clear things up.

I thought some people got credited for their points? Not sure, I kept my point balance low, but if so, I would think you should have gotten a big bump from the 30K points you had.
09-25-2013 , 12:13 PM
There was also a "Take 2" promo that I (and I think at least some others) were credited for post-04/15 which was included in my remission balance. Mine was $25 but I think the amounts scaled based on play or something, so maybe there was an even $20 option.
09-25-2013 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerXanadu
I am planning to submit the email below to GCG shortly. Did I miss anything?

14. Many players requested withdrawals from FTP which were never completed. What evidence will suffice to prove such a withdrawal for inclusion in their petition for remission? Some received checks which either bounced or were never cashed, but most received nothing and their only evidence is the withdrawal entry in their FTP account records and bank statements from the time showing no corresponding deposit. Will these, along with a signed statement, be sufficient documentation? Does such a signed statement need to be notarized, or will submission through the online petition be sufficient?
I pretty much asked this question to them and would like to share the response I received after about a week:

Good Afternoon,

If you believe that your account balance is incorrect, please click the button labeled, “To Dispute Balance: Click to Upload Documents” and follow the instructions provided.


Thank you,

Claims Administrator (SM)
Info@FullTiltPokerClaims.com
(866) 250-2640
09-25-2013 , 03:27 PM
Thanks for your continued work PX.

Given all the issues and questions and the short time frame to apply wouldn't it make sense to ask for an extension in the application deadline pending answers to the many issues raised that you've listed in #298?
09-25-2013 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by munkey
Thanks for your continued work PX.

Given all the issues and questions and the short time frame to apply wouldn't it make sense to ask for an extension in the application deadline pending answers to the many issues raised that you've listed in #298?
You are welcome.

I'll see what sort of response comes to my questions. I suspect it won't have much substance other than the stock answers.

Unless new information comes to light, there wouldn't be any real reason to extend the deadline, other than maybe to give petitioners a chance to get an ITIN if they don't have an SSN and there is no way to submit a petition without one or the other. The rest of the issues won't stop anyone from submitting a petition for whatever they think they should get.

For the most part, it's just a matter of everyone submitting their petition - either with their P&C#s or without - and whatever supporting documents they can come up with. I think the GCG/DOJ may not make any decisions as to what they will or won't allow until after the bar date and all petitions have been submitted.

As I understand the process, anyone without insufficient documentation to support their dispute or new petition will be given notice and an opportunity to provide whatever is missing. And anyone who has a dispute or petition denied will be given notice and a chance to appeal.
09-25-2013 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by KingKongGrinder
Thanks. I'm in a situation where I'm flagged as an affiliate and I don't know how. I searched my entire account history from January 2007 to May of 2011 and I never received any credits as an affiliate. Not one penny. I don't ever remember signing up to be an affiliate. I wonder what my chances are of getting my money.
09/20 - Sent email to info@FullTiltPokerClaims.com with my FTP history spread sheet and a detailed letter explaining that I'm not an affiliate and never made any affiliate compensation.

09/23 - GCG escalated my case to a specialist

09/25 - No response yet.
09-25-2013 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by repulse
There was also a "Take 2" promo that I (and I think at least some others) were credited for post-04/15 which was included in my remission balance. Mine was $25 but I think the amounts scaled based on play or something, so maybe there was an even $20 option.
AIR, I was doing the "Take 2" at the time, so I bet that was it. I'm not reloading their crappy s/w on my laptop so I'll just accept their calculation which was higher than my screenshot anyways!
09-25-2013 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by KingKongGrinder
Thanks. I'm in a situation where I'm flagged as an affiliate and I don't know how. I searched my entire account history from January 2007 to May of 2011 and I never received any credits as an affiliate. Not one penny. I don't ever remember signing up to be an affiliate. I wonder what my chances are of getting my money.
I am in the same boat. I was flagged as an affiliate and never received any money as one. Is there anything we can do about this?
09-25-2013 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by WebGuySteve
I am in the same boat. I was flagged as an affiliate and never received any money as one. Is there anything we can do about this?
Several people, including myself and Rich(PPA), have an email into GCG asking for clarification on this.

At this point in time, I plan to wait until I hear anything further. If no additional information is available by say November 9th, I'll manually file a petition for claim. In the GCG main thread, Ford1938 has recommended filing anyway since GCG will have to respond to it with clear reasoning for denial. Even then, you would still get a chance to appeal.

For evidence submission, I do have both the FTP-originated spreadsheet detailing my balance and a screenshot corroborating it as well.

In an ideal world, GCG rescinds that classification on our accounts before we have to manually file and we get Petition and Control numbers linking us to our correct balances.
09-25-2013 , 09:00 PM
Maybe this has already been covered and I missed the answer, but the FTP remission site wants my SSN, my bank accout number and the routing number--an identify thief's trifecta. Is gnginc.com safe and legit? I hate like hell to put this info out here, but I could use the cash right now. I apologize in advance if this is just paranoia.
09-25-2013 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by OneByPhi
...my bank accout number and the routing number...I hate like hell to put this info out here
you've never written a check before?
09-26-2013 , 12:12 AM
How do you know if you are flagged as an affiliate? My account balanced showed $0, which is false, could it be because I was getting rake back?
09-26-2013 , 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by OneByPhi
Maybe this has already been covered and I missed the answer, but the FTP remission site wants my SSN, my bank accout number and the routing number--an identify thief's trifecta. Is gnginc.com safe and legit? I hate like hell to put this info out here, but I could use the cash right now. I apologize in advance if this is just paranoia.
These are the legit sites:

http://www.fulltiltpokerclaims.com/
https://secure.gcginc.com/PKR/Login.aspx

And the legit email addresses:

Info@FullTiltPokerClaims.com
FullTiltClaimsAdministration@tgcginc.com
no-reply@FullTiltPokerClaims.com

And the legit GCG phone number:

(866) 250-2640
09-26-2013 , 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by bringitback
How do you know if you are flagged as an affiliate? My account balanced showed $0, which is false, could it be because I was getting rake back?
If you received your P&C#s email from GCG then you are not flagged as an affiliate even if your account balance on the petition web site showed zero.

If you are filing a New Petition, it automatically shows zero as your account balance. That is just the field for entry of the amount you with to claim.

If you did not receive P&C#s email from GCG, then you may be tagged as an affiliate. You should find out directly from GCG by phone or email. If you are not tagged as an affiliate, you can try to get your P&C#s email. See the Remissions Sticky in this forum.
09-26-2013 , 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by badblood44
Several people, including myself and Rich(PPA), have an email into GCG asking for clarification on this.

At this point in time, I plan to wait until I hear anything further. If no additional information is available by say November 9th, I'll manually file a petition for claim. In the GCG main thread, Ford1938 has recommended filing anyway since GCG will have to respond to it with clear reasoning for denial. Even then, you would still get a chance to appeal.

For evidence submission, I do have both the FTP-originated spreadsheet detailing my balance and a screenshot corroborating it as well.

In an ideal world, GCG rescinds that classification on our accounts before we have to manually file and we get Petition and Control numbers linking us to our correct balances.
Yes, file no matter what.

      
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