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Fifteen years forward:

Slots and limited table games allowed at all the pari-mutuels statewide.
Full de-coupling of the pari-mutuel cardrooms/gaming from racing.
Full gaming at the Seminole casinos with no revenue-sharing.
A vegas-style casino strip in Miami-Dade; including a Disney-owned hotel/convention center/casino.

Billions and billions of dollars of gambling revenue for education.

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03-01-2017 , 12:56 PM

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The article should just be viewed as just a negotiation tactic. The feds have approved similar deals and the tribe's view on what the feds will not is not exactly in independent analysis.

The tribe does seem to have the better negotiating position as the State wants their money, the Federal Court has already ruled in their favor that the State violated the old compact and there are enough anti gaming legislators for the tribe to work with to stall expansion. IMV the extent to any non tribe gaming expansion occurs will be directly related to potential bad management by the tribe for failing to maximize its advantages

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05-03-2017 , 09:13 PM

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Florida lawmakers fold on reaching gambling deal

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Unable to overcome an impasse on slot machines, Florida House and Senate leaders Tuesday called off negotiations on a sweeping gambling measure, acknowledging that the effort is dead for the 2017 legislative session.

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With a number of unresolved gambling-related court issues — as well as a potential $3 billion deal with the Seminoles — still on the table, talk inside the Capitol turned to the possibility of a special session later this summer on the issue.

“We could have a series of bad court decisions that can result in a major reduction in the revenue share that we enjoy from the tribe. Does that mean we’ll have a special session on it? I don’t know,” Galvano said.

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05-17-2017 , 04:08 PM

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In case you aren't up-to-date on the Florida legal landscape for gambling expansion, here's a good article:

Supreme Court Holds Cards in Florida Gambling Debate

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05-18-2017 , 03:44 PM

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No Deal: Florida Supreme Court Turns Down Bid for Slots

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In a major blow to Florida's struggling dog and horse tracks, the state's high court on Thursday rejected a lawsuit that contended tracks could add slot machines as long as local voters had approved them.

The Florida Supreme Court unanimously ruled that the owners of a track located 25 miles (40 kilometers) west of Tallahassee did not have the legal authority to install slot machines even though Gadsden County voters said 'yes' in a referendum.

The ruling has a far-reaching effect since several other counties statewide — including Palm Beach in south Florida and Duval in northeast Florida — have held similar referendums based on a 2009 change in law passed by the Republican-controlled Legislature.

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During their recently concluded session, Florida lawmakers considered a major gambling bill that would have made it clear that tracks outside of Broward and Miami-Dade counties could add slot machines. Senate Republicans backed the change, but House Republicans held firm against the proposal, causing the gambling legislation to die once the session ended.

Sen. Bill Galvano, the Bradenton Republican who sponsored the gambling bill, said the ruling may help legislators reach an agreement in 2018.

"This confirmation of legislative authority removes a significant obstacle in our negotiations with the Seminole Tribe, providing clarity that as we move forward the Legislature, rather than the courts, will determine what expansion looks like and where it takes place," Galvano said.

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05-20-2017 , 09:01 PM

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Interesting insight into why it takes so many years to pass gambling legislation in Florida:

All Aboard the Gambling Gravy Train

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Gambling bills don't "die of their own weight," as former Senate President Andy Gardiner said last year. They die because government corporatism and cronyism -- lobbyists and legislators themselves -- want them to. We saw it bigtime in 2016.

Gaming interests are the gravy train. Period. Gambling bills die so legislators and lobbyists can resurrect them, inviting the roar of special-interest campaign donations for their political committees in an election year.

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05-26-2017 , 09:00 PM

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Hmm...interesting.

Hard Rock charts different path for its casino’shttps://www.newstalkflorida.com/feat...-path-casinos/

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Jim Allen once worked for Donald Trump in Atlantic City. Now, the chairman of Hard Rock International is doing all he can to scrub the influence of the man who is now president of the United States from his signature casino.

Hard Rock, the gambling arm of the Seminole Indian tribe of Florida, is working on a remake of the former Trump Taj Mahal casino, which the company bought in March for $50 million, for about 4 cents on the dollar from the $1.2 billion Trump spent to open it in 1990.

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Hard Rock soon will announce a partnership to offer internet gambling in multiple jurisdictions, including, eventually, New Jersey. And then there’s the de-Trumpification the place needs.

Could this foretell Internet poker in Florida?

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07-07-2017 , 12:05 PM

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Looks like the banked card games at the pari-mutuel cardrooms are going away:

Settling gambling dispute with Seminole Tribe means Florida is $340 million richer

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Blackjack will continue uninterrupted at casinos run by the Seminole Tribe of Florida, pari-mutuels will be ordered to stop offering controversial competing card games, and the State of Florida will have access to more than $340 million in new money, under a settlement agreement reached late Wednesday between the tribe and state regulators.

Under the agreement, the Seminole Tribe has agreed to continue monthly revenue sharing payments to the state in return for the state agreeing to enforce a judge's ruling that allows the tribe to continue to operate blackjack and other banked card games at its casinos for another 13 years.

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The settlement agreement also contemplates that lawmakers could return next session and formally renew the banked card game provisions that have expired in the compact. It states that the tribe will continue payments through the 2018 legislative session "provided that the State takes aggressive enforcement action" by shutting down the illegal "designated player games."

...maybe:

New gambling deal leaves racetracks and Seminoles at odds

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South Florida racetracks that offer certain types of card games are trying to hold onto the lucrative business after the state of Florida reached a settlement with the Seminole Tribe.

The state agreed not to appeal a 2016 court decision that allowed the Seminoles to offer blackjack through 2030. In return, the tribe will make revenue-sharing payments to the state until the end of the 2018 legislative session — but only if Florida “takes aggressive enforcement action” against designated player games that operate as banked card games at pari-mutuel casinos around the state.

But the pari-mutuel industry maintains its games are in keeping with state regulations, leaving the state in the position of cracking down on a practice that the industry says is perfectly legal.

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“It’s a tough position for the state to be in,” Galvano said. “There are many pari-mutuels that have already started designated player games, and they are quite profitable. So, you’re going to have an enforcement challenge, and then from a legislative policy perspective, the choices have now been significantly narrowed. Do you maintain the status quo of gaming in Florida and rely solely on tribal payments, or do you now look to the pari-mutuel industry for the revenues in lieu of what you have with the tribe?”

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