Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > >

Notices

Poker Legislation & PPA Discussion hosted by Rich Muny Discussions of various poker-related laws and steps players can take to push for better laws.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-17-2013, 05:10 PM   #151
kidcharisma1
adept
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: the renaissance
Posts: 1,093
any word on the new online poker bill?
Last night it was reported that a new bill is gonna be fast tracked in. 20% tax on gross for fee based games and 10% for non fee based games. I believe that means cash games and tournaments. Seems high but for
the first five years it's half that. Basically no bad actor clause and its going to be all gambling games and provisions to pool with other states and I can't remember if it included international players.
Standard issue license given to existing casinos and players must be located with in the state to play until compacts are made.
This is all I remember off the top of my head and it might not all be correct so please read with a grain of salt and don't get your hopes up to high. At least not yet.
kidcharisma1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2013, 08:20 PM   #152
PokerXanadu
Commander X-2
 
PokerXanadu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Florida
Posts: 10,352
Re: Finally Illinois Has an Online Bill

Cullerton floats Internet gambling plan

Text of draft bill:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/141687246/iGamingDraft5-14-13
PokerXanadu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2013, 08:30 PM   #153
PokerXanadu
Commander X-2
 
PokerXanadu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Florida
Posts: 10,352
Re: Finally Illinois Has an Online Bill

Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerXanadu View Post
It's basically what was part of the whole casino bill, but now broken off to its own bill. See my earlier cliffs:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...48&postcount=5

Last edited by PokerXanadu; 05-17-2013 at 08:36 PM.
PokerXanadu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2013, 02:18 AM   #154
reztes757
adept
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 837
Re: Finally Illinois Has an Online Bill

soooo......any chance?
reztes757 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2013, 02:27 AM   #155
reztes757
adept
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 837
Re: Finally Illinois Has an Online Bill

Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerXanadu View Post
Also, created an account to comment and still can't. All comments are negative and despite making an account I still can't comment.
reztes757 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2013, 02:18 PM   #156
zooroaster
enthusiast
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 73
Re: Finally Illinois Has an Online Bill

Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerXanadu View Post
Did I read both of them right? I felt like the first one said interstate traffic would be an option but not in the second link.
zooroaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2013, 11:02 PM   #157
PokerXanadu
Commander X-2
 
PokerXanadu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Florida
Posts: 10,352
Re: Finally Illinois Has an Online Bill

Quote:
Originally Posted by zooroaster View Post
Did I read both of them right? I felt like the first one said interstate traffic would be an option but not in the second link.
You read it wrong. The draft bill has a provision that authorizes the IL Lottery to enter into multi-jurisdictional agreements with other gaming entities, domestic and foreign, for Internet gaming.
PokerXanadu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2013, 10:06 AM   #158
TheVillageGrinder
grinder
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 403
Re: Finally Illinois Has an Online Bill

This has about as much of a chance of passing as the likelihood that we will see a Cubs Sox World Series this October.

I appreciate Mr. Cullerton's efforts but not necessarily his motivation. The reason for doing this is never because it provides Illinois citizens the right to do what they please. They always say it will raise money and this is the motivation for moving forward. This just enrages ppl and encourages them to fight against the status quo tax and spend agenda that so many ppl (including myself) are sick of.

This should be done because it is the right thing to do and can provide consumer protections not currently available to citizen of our state.

I'm so tired of having to get behind efforts where the motivation for providing us our rights is that it will positively affect the bottom line for state coffers. I really couldn't care less about what financial impact it has for our state. IN fact i agree with those who oppose this move based on it being simply another cash grab, which it is. If the politicians believed this to be revenue neutral, no one would give a damn.

Do it because the gov't is in place to protect the rights and liberties of its people and those they claim to represent. Screw these jackasses who judge ppl who gamble and oppose it on moral levels. Why do they care? If they're so concerned about ppl ruining their lives then spend time getting booze and cigarettes banned. Do they not care that millions of ppl lose their life because of addiction to alcohol and cigarettes? STay the hell out of our business. If you dont wanna gamble, then don't. Simple and plain. Just stop being a pompous ass and try to deny rights and privileges to those that do.
TheVillageGrinder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2013, 01:10 PM   #159
halsted
grinder
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 401
Re: Finally Illinois Has an Online Bill

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheVillageGrinder View Post
This has about as much of a chance of passing as the likelihood that we will see a Cubs Sox World Series this October.

I appreciate Mr. Cullerton's efforts but not necessarily his motivation. The reason for doing this is never because it provides Illinois citizens the right to do what they please.
Hey Village Grinder. no offense but you don't know sh*t about President Cullertons motivation.
halsted is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2013, 01:11 PM   #160
halsted
grinder
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 401
Re: Finally Illinois Has an Online Bill

UPDATE------------

Sorry everyone.

Bill is dead. It will not be called. I tried

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X_2oYNYz0A
halsted is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2013, 01:27 PM   #161
lilprog
adept
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Illinois
Posts: 943
Re: Finally Illinois Has an Online Bill

Only Illinois is a greedy enough state to steal insurance benefits from their state retired employees and yet not smart enough to pass a poker bill...
lilprog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2013, 01:35 PM   #162
dudeoflife
veteran
 
dudeoflife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,419
Re: Finally Illinois Has an Online Bill

Sigh, thanks for your efforts halsted.
dudeoflife is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2013, 03:12 PM   #163
gnvsnnkv
old hand
 
gnvsnnkv's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,455
Re: Finally Illinois Has an Online Bill

Quote:
Originally Posted by dudeoflife View Post
Sigh, thanks for your efforts halsted.
+1
gnvsnnkv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2013, 11:54 PM   #164
Pun Intended
adept
 
Pun Intended's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 801
Re: Finally Illinois Has an Online Bill

dammit.

i appreciate your effort, halsted.
Pun Intended is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2013, 12:14 AM   #165
TheVillageGrinder
grinder
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 403
Re: Finally Illinois Has an Online Bill

Quote:
Originally Posted by halsted View Post
Hey Village Grinder. no offense but you don't know sh*t about President Cullertons motivation.
Oh ok. So his reasons for doing this were based on altruism?
TheVillageGrinder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2013, 01:40 PM   #166
ikestoys
banned
 
ikestoys's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: and don't vote trump/sanders
Posts: 94,444
Re: Finally Illinois Has an Online Bill

Are yours?
ikestoys is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 02:36 PM   #167
jimmyvjv13
Life Grinder
 
jimmyvjv13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Repping Aces @ZepHendrix
Posts: 4,975
Re: Finally Illinois Has an Online Bill

Thanks halsted

gg
jimmyvjv13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2013, 02:44 PM   #168
lilprog
adept
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Illinois
Posts: 943
Re: Finally Illinois Has an Online Bill

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2...news/705239717

So horse betting online gets passed, poker dead in the water, is it me or do we just need to raise funds and pay someone off under the table. I freaking hate this state with an epic passion and cannot wait to be able to leave it....
lilprog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2013, 01:00 AM   #169
fun160
adept
 
fun160's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Big Ten Country
Posts: 1,007
Illinois gaming expansion bill dies again

Another swing-and-a-miss, per Cardplayer...
A bill that would have approved casino gambling expansion has failed to make it out of the Illinois House spring session.

“I will never, ever sign a gaming expansion absent comprehensive pension reform,” Gov. Quinn said.

A previous version of the bill included language that would have licensed and regulated online gaming, but it has since been removed from the piece of legislation.

Illinois is the fifth largest state in the country with a population of 12.875 million, according to the latest population estimate conducted in July of 2012. There are only seven casinos in the state with poker rooms, 33 poker tables in total, none of which are in Chicago.

To put those numbers in perspective, Pennsylvania has a similar population of 12.763 million with a drastically larger number of poker rooms totaling over 250 poker tables.
fun160 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2013, 01:22 PM   #170
halsted
grinder
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 401
Re: Illinois gaming expansion bill dies again

Quote:
Originally Posted by fun160 View Post
Another swing-and-a-miss, per Cardplayer...
A bill that would have approved casino gambling expansion has failed to make it out of the Illinois House spring session.

“I will never, ever sign a gaming expansion absent comprehensive pension reform,” Gov. Quinn said.

A previous version of the bill included language that would have licensed and regulated online gaming, but it has since been removed from the piece of legislation.

Illinois is the fifth largest state in the country with a population of 12.875 million, according to the latest population estimate conducted in July of 2012. There are only seven casinos in the state with poker rooms, 33 poker tables in total, none of which are in Chicago.

To put those numbers in perspective, Pennsylvania has a similar population of 12.763 million with a drastically larger number of poker rooms totaling over 250 poker tables.

Im actually happy the casino bill did not pass. Small small chance they could add poker back in and pass it during the veto session (Starting Oct 25th I think)

Emphasis on small.

P.S. Dont even pay attention to that Quinn quote.
halsted is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2013, 02:08 PM   #171
fun160
adept
 
fun160's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Big Ten Country
Posts: 1,007
Re: Illinois gaming expansion bill dies again

Quote:
Originally Posted by halsted View Post
Don't even pay attention to that Quinn quote: “I will never, ever sign a gaming expansion absent comprehensive pension reform.”
I disagree. Princess Lisa is poised to become Queen of the People's Republic of Madigastan, but Daddy wants some sort of resolution on pensions before she takes titular control of the state. (His pension reform plan was slaughtered in the Senate last week.)

Daddy doesn't want Princess Lisa's fingerprints on pension reform when it goes bad, as it inevitably will. And Gov. Quinn doesn't do ANYTHING until Speaker Madigan tells him what to do.

Last edited by fun160; 06-02-2013 at 02:16 PM.
fun160 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2013, 02:23 PM   #172
halsted
grinder
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 401
Re: Finally Illinois Has an Online Bill

So Horse Racing (Mainly the Thoroughbred association) is our nemesis. They want Igaming money to go to the track purses. Yes I know that makes no sense and shouldnt matter but it is what it is.

So the Sen President tabled the bill w/o a vote because the 5 state Senators who live in those areas would now oppose. So you need 30 votes, Igaming is not that popular to begin with, and losing those 5 killed the bill.

So how do we fix that WITHOUT giving them money (b/c the casinos will then oppose)????????

Also these are the Senators and Reps in the Horse Track districts if you want to tell them to put Ipoker back into SB1739 during the veto session.

Sen Martin Sandoval
Rep Dan Burke
Rep Liz Hernandez
Rep Silvana Tabares
Sen Kim Lightford
Rep Karen Yarbrough
Rep LaShawn Ford
Sen James Meeks
Rep Will Davis
Rep David Miller
Senator William R. Haine
Representative Daniel V. Beiser
Representative Jay C. Hoffman
Senator Ira I. Silverstein
Representative John D'Amico
Representative Lou Lang
halsted is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2013, 02:29 PM   #173
halsted
grinder
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 401
Re: Illinois gaming expansion bill dies again

Quote:
Originally Posted by fun160 View Post
I disagree. Princess Lisa is poised to become Queen of the People's Republic of Madigastan, but Daddy wants some sort of resolution on pensions before she takes titular control of the state. (His pension reform plan was slaughtered in the Senate last week.)

Daddy doesn't want Princess Lisa's fingerprints on pension reform when it goes bad, as it inevitably will. And Gov. Quinn doesn't do ANYTHING until Speaker Madigan tells him what to do.
Almost spend time responding to all of this.... What is wrong with me...

Please stop talking politics with bar buddies, they are misinformed.
halsted is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2014, 12:12 PM   #174
lsjfklds
newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 16
Re: Finally Illinois Has an Online Bill

Illinois Exploring Internet Gambling Again:
http://pokerfuse.com/news/law-and-re...g-again-27-02/
lsjfklds is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2014, 12:38 PM   #175
sba9630
Pooh-Bah
 
sba9630's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: This space intentionally left blank
Posts: 4,511
Re: Finally Illinois Has an Online Bill

Quote:
Originally Posted by lsjfklds View Post
Illinois Exploring Internet Gambling Again:
http://pokerfuse.com/news/law-and-re...g-again-27-02/
Longtime gaming opponent Anita Bedell...was careful to point out that cannabis use was higher among internet gamblers.
sba9630 is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:40 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.33 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright © 2008-2010, Two Plus Two Interactive
 
 
Poker Players - Streaming Live Online