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Old 03-14-2013, 12:42 PM   #51
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Bad actor language changed, Stars might have a chance in Illinois.

http://www.onlinepokerreport.com/618...gambling-bill/
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:18 PM   #52
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One time sweet baby jesus.
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Old 03-14-2013, 03:50 PM   #53
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Bad actor language changed, Stars might have a chance in Illinois.

http://www.onlinepokerreport.com/618...gambling-bill/
Thanks. In essence, there is no longer any "bad actors" provision in the bill in the sense that existing offshore sites haven't been convicted of contravening US laws. Now these provisions are really against future bad actors who might get convicted of offering play on unlicensed sites (plus a few individuals who have been convicted in the BF case).
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Old 03-14-2013, 04:06 PM   #54
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Thanks. In essence, there is no longer any "bad actors" provision in the bill in the sense that existing offshore sites haven't been convicted of contravening US laws. Now these provisions are really against future bad actors who might get convicted of offering play on unlicensed sites (plus a few individuals who have been convicted in the BF case).
I live in Illinois and as resident of this fine state I would like your opinion on something?

Can I put the champagne on ice?
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Old 03-14-2013, 04:07 PM   #55
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Bad actor language changed, Stars might have a chance in Illinois.

http://www.onlinepokerreport.com/618...gambling-bill/
Why does anyone care if Stars get in or not? I don't understand why every time poker regulation gets close, it's a major concern if Stars will be allowed . Am I missing something? Maybe it is just because I never liked Stars or their software.
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Old 03-14-2013, 04:15 PM   #56
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Why does anyone care if Stars get in or not? I don't understand why every time poker regulation gets close, it's a major concern if Stars will be allowed . Am I missing something? Maybe it is just because I never liked Stars or their software.
If Stars gets in then Ftp software is in and combine that with the fact that it gives other operators a standard to be compared to.
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Old 03-14-2013, 04:40 PM   #57
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If Stars gets in then Ftp software is in and combine that with the fact that it gives other operators a standard to be compared to.
Aren't the other operators already teaming with international sites currently competing with Stars?
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Old 03-14-2013, 04:56 PM   #58
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Aren't the other operators already teaming with international sites currently competing with Stars?
Some of them will use there software and some of them will build their own.

In a perfect world I would have Stars customer service with Ftp software, which row has now. I will call it heaven when the USA fish pool is added to that equation.
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Old 03-15-2013, 12:51 AM   #59
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I live in Illinois and as resident of this fine state I would like your opinion on something?

Can I put the champagne on ice?
"fine" state is stretching a bit, dont ya think?
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:59 AM   #60
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besides chicago and chicago burbs it is an armpit i have to agree.
There are many great places in IL outside of chicagoland, unfortunately the state is run so poorly its a burden to its residents.
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Old 03-18-2013, 03:41 PM   #61
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So it looks like Sen Murphy might cause a little trouble.

""That may end up being the biggest part of the bill," said state Sen. Matt Murphy, a Palatine Republican.

"And it's the part we're spending the least amount of time on."

Concerns about underage players and people getting addicted have raised red flags for opponents and even for lawmakers like Murphy who have voted for gambling expansion in the past to support Arlington Park's bid for slot machines.

"I would absolutely like to see another state experience this live before we jump in," Murphy said."

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2...interstitial=1

I think Quinn could cause some problems as well. ..
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:35 PM   #62
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I wonder how much Nazi gold is being stuffed into Quinns mouth by being such a huge opponent of gaming in Illinois.

Don't tell me its because he wants to get pensions figured out first because that doesn't make any sense to me.

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Old 03-18-2013, 04:37 PM   #63
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I wonder how much Nazi gold is being stuffed into Quinns mouth by being such a huge opponent of gaming in Illinois.

Don't tell me its because he wants to get pensions figured out first because that doesn't make any sense to me.

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Old 03-19-2013, 04:54 PM   #64
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I wonder how much Nazi gold is being stuffed into Quinns mouth by being such a huge opponent of gaming in Illinois.

Don't tell me its because he wants to get pensions figured out first because that doesn't make any sense to me.

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Quinn has made it a point to do everything, not just gambling, "with strict by the book regulations"

He wants that narrative for the upcoming elections (to seem opposite of Blago etc.) So that hurts us a little. I think it's more of a "Hey, lets put some restrictions on this so I look good then I'll sign it" than "opponent of gambling". At least I hope so.
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Old 03-20-2013, 02:29 PM   #65
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They can't even get run away pensions under control, or put a brick and mortar casino near Chicago. I think getting these bozos to sign off on online poker is quite a ways away. The best thing that can happen is Nevada has success and they all realize how much online poker will appeal to their greed.
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Old 03-21-2013, 07:22 AM   #66
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They can't even get run away pensions under control, or put a brick and mortar casino near Chicago. I think getting these bozos to sign off on online poker is quite a ways away. The best thing that can happen is Nevada has success and they all realize how much online poker will appeal to their greed.

I think the reason they have been dragging their feet so long on putting a casino in Chicago has nothing to do with gambling. I think it has more to do with where would you put it without pissing off to many people. Chicago understands the kind of people that go to the horseshoe in IN and understand that many of these same people will be coming to their casino. I feel like if they put it in the wrong place it could really hurt the value of that area in the city and that's whats been holding up this bill.

Also they already have the IL lotto online so they don't seem to be against online gambling, and are more about whats going to make them the most amount of money.
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:11 AM   #67
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What exactly by 'kind of people' do you mean?

If it's the way I think it is, that's because it's on the south side in an economically depressed area. The clientele at the chicago casino would be very different.
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:28 AM   #68
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I think the reason they have been dragging their feet so long on putting a casino in Chicago has nothing to do with gambling. I think it has more to do with where would you put it without pissing off to many people. Chicago understands the kind of people that go to the horseshoe in IN and understand that many of these same people will be coming to their casino. I feel like if they put it in the wrong place it could really hurt the value of that area in the city and that's whats been holding up this bill.

Also they already have the IL lotto online so they don't seem to be against online gambling, and are more about whats going to make them the most amount of money.
It is pretty easy to control who comes to the casino through drink prices and minimum bets on games.
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Old 03-22-2013, 01:06 AM   #69
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IL senate approved some scaled back BS pension reform, now maybe they can get down to business.
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Old 03-23-2013, 11:59 AM   #70
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IL senate approved some scaled back BS pension reform, now maybe they can get down to business.
Madigan has his own plan too. So that could slow Cullertons bill down.

Either way, session is over for two and a half weeks. So don't expect any news for a while.
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Old 03-23-2013, 12:07 PM   #71
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whats Madigans plan?
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Old 03-23-2013, 12:15 PM   #72
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whats Madigans plan?
http://capitolfax.com/2013/03/22/house-pension-roundup/
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:09 PM   #73
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Old 03-25-2013, 02:27 PM   #74
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Illinois has an Igaming bill that has no input from #Poker players. Shoot me some ideas on what you would like to see in the bill.
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:54 AM   #75
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http://pokerfuse.com/news/law-and-re...llinois-26-03/

That doesn't sound like we have a very good chance.
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