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I was mostly trying to get a sense of a timeline. She said that she did not have that information, and that they were relying on the DOJ to give them more info on the steps of the process (Uhg!!). I informed her that US players were already very upset with this whole process, but thanked her for her time.

That's about it for now. Will be interested to hear about others' calls/questions.

I was transferred to Ryan Calloway. He said no one at Garden City Group will be able to answer any questions that aren't answered in the press release. He said that no one at Garden City Group has spoken to the DOJ, Full Tilt, or Pokerstars yet.

Called their corporate office in an attempt to find someone other than a CSR queue. All of their answers are "We don't have that info," "Its too early to know," or "Register & check the website."

Wish I had the appropriate patience and social engineering skills to find someone at Garden City Group who doesn't dodge questions like Full Tilt.

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03-15-2013 , 07:57 PM

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JoeSchmo

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Originally Posted by DukeMuscle

I was transferred to Ryan Calloway. He said no one at Garden City Group will be able to answer any questions that aren't answered in the press release. He said that no one at Garden City Group has spoken to the DOJ, Full Tilt, or Pokerstars yet.

Called their corporate office in an attempt to find someone other than a CSR queue. All of their answers are "We don't have that info," "Its too early to know," or "Register & check the website."

Wish I had the appropriate patience and social engineering skills to find someone at Garden City Group who doesn't dodge questions like Full Tilt.

So you think GC Group knows exactly when you'll be paid but they're just jerking you around? Come on.

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03-15-2013 , 08:15 PM

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poorolrich

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Originally Posted by JoeSchmo

So you think GC Group knows exactly when you'll be paid but they're just jerking you around? Come on.

Hell, they probably don't have all the paper work yet.

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03-15-2013 , 09:18 PM

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DukeMuscle

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Originally Posted by JoeSchmo

So you think GC Group knows exactly when you'll be paid but they're just jerking you around? Come on.

You didn't read what I wrote, did you?

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03-15-2013 , 10:22 PM

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ScreaminAsian

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Originally Posted by DukeMuscle

You didn't read what I wrote, did you?

so were they dodging questions or did they really not know? now i'm confused

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03-16-2013 , 12:30 AM

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DukeMuscle

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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

so were they dodging questions or did they really not know? now i'm confused

They didn't know their asses from their elbows.

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03-16-2013 , 04:16 AM

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JoeSchmo

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Originally Posted by DukeMuscle

They didn't know their asses from their elbows.

That's not what you wrote, but whatever. Were you really expecting anything helpful from that phone call?

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03-16-2013 , 08:49 PM

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karmageddon

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Originally Posted by TheEngineer

Manhattan U.S. Attorney Announces Appointment Of Garden City Group As Claims Adminstrator For Forfeited Funds In U.S. v. Pokerstars That Will Be Returned To Victims: http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pres...alMasterPR.php

The claims administrator just put up a website: www.fulltiltpokerclaims.com

Good news IMO. I've worked with GCG setting up something similar to this. They were very professional and built a clean, clear process.

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03-17-2013 , 06:06 PM

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TeflonDawg

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Originally Posted by karmageddon

Good news IMO. I've worked with GCG setting up something similar to this. They were very professional and built a clean, clear process.

I agree it is good news, but it is infuriating to know how long we've waited for this and that we're paying for this process of getting our own money with...our own money.

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03-18-2013 , 06:02 AM

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insidemanpoker

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What's so damn annoying is that don't just come out and say what is going to happen. Everyone is hoping/thinking/expecting to get their whole balance or very close to it but the way this all played out you can't blame people for wanting to be sure. It matters a lot less getting the money tomorrow than it does telling people with certainty they will get their money by x date.

Enough waiting, tell the players what is going to happen already.

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03-18-2013 , 05:27 PM

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Marco Valerio

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What do you make of this guy?

Attorney Brian Mooney Comments On Naming Of Pokerstars and Full Tilt Poker Claims Administrator

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"With $159 million in Pokerstars and Full Tilt Poker money to be paid out, it is important that a strong administrator be named to handle this sometimes complicated process," Mooney said. "Garden City Group seems to have the experience to handle these important claims for online poker players."

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"The remission process can be complicated and full of dangerous traps for the unwary," Mooney adds. "I encourage anyone with a Pokerstars or Full Tilt Poker remission claim to get legal advice if they want to be sure their claim is handled correctly."

Mooney recently released a series of videos which are designed to give Full Tilt Poker players more information about the remission process.

From his YouTube channel, here are the two videos dealing with the Full Tilt Poker remission process specifically.

Pokerstars And Full Tilt Poker Claims Administrator Named

How Will Pokerstars And Full Tilt Poker Claims Be Paid?

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03-18-2013 , 06:07 PM

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ScreaminAsian

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a lawyer encourages you to spend money on a lawyer. big ****in surprise there. thanks for the ad-vice

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03-19-2013 , 09:56 AM

#38

Go Get It

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"As of today that wait shouldn't be to long"

lol, see you in 4 months guy.

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03-19-2013 , 11:06 AM

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TRS

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unreal what a ****ing mess this is. i don't know how the hell they are going to know who FT allowed to play on credit and for how much and who actually deserves money. unreal cluster****.

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03-19-2013 , 12:57 PM

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antneye

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unreal what a ****ing mess this is. i don't know how the hell they are going to know who FT allowed to play on credit and for how much and who actually deserves money. unreal cluster****.

How does this matter? FT floating people credit becomes FT's liability. You simply offset peoples balances by the debits they owe. In the absence of knowing the debit owed you pay balances.

This is not rocket science.

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03-20-2013 , 06:54 PM

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funkyj

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Can't wait until they put up an example timeline, & a picture of what a remission check may look like.

Can't wait until DRybes et al. make a good song and music video about the agonizing experience.

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03-21-2013 , 12:23 AM

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Weird Breakfast

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Wow he has federal reporters listen up

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Originally Posted by Marco Valerio

What do you make of this guy?

Attorney Brian Mooney Comments On Naming Of Pokerstars and Full Tilt Poker Claims Administrator

From his YouTube channel, here are the two videos dealing with the Full Tilt Poker remission process specifically.

Pokerstars And Full Tilt Poker Claims Administrator Named

How Will Pokerstars And Full Tilt Poker Claims Be Paid?

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03-22-2013 , 04:30 PM

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jschell

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Originally Posted by TBadr

This has probably been asked before but, does the DOJ/GCG know the individaul players balances? I don't remember what my balance was to the dollar and after emailing FTP i got the following response.

You should be able to log in to the FTP client and go to Requests > Account History. Did this just now and got my entire account history (US account). Took about 10 minutes to process. Set the start date to 1/1/2005 if you want your whole history. Note that the spreadsheet will get split into multiple sheets if you have a lot of transactions.

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03-22-2013 , 04:58 PM

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TBadr

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^ thanks, that worked

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03-22-2013 , 07:03 PM

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Kowalski

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I'm just nervous how these guys are going to handle the limbo funds. My final FTP balance is several thousand short of what it should be due to my panicked April 15th cashouts (and one prior to that, that never hit my bank). The whole thing is cringe-worthy, I wish we had some more information.

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03-23-2013 , 12:11 AM

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ArnieAA

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Originally Posted by antneye

You really don't see what's wrong with this?
Player A plays on credit, loses $1000; he leaves losing nothing.
Player B plays on credit, wins $1000; pays off his credit can collects his $1000.
In short, a large number of American players were freerolling FTP.

In essence, there were players at the same table playing with real money and players playing with play money. Obviously, the players playing with play money shouldn't be able to win real money.

This is the crux of the net deposits vs. balances issue. Since the money on the table was tainted, how can you legitimize the games?

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03-23-2013 , 12:28 AM

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Rich Muny

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Originally Posted by ArnieAA

Simple. Make them repay the money, just like they'd do in a B&M game.

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This is the crux of the net deposits vs. balances issue. Since the money on the table was tainted, how can you legitimize the games?

Except no one is at the DoJ trying to make that case. It's just an academic discussion on some poker forums.

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03-23-2013 , 09:15 AM

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Black Hat

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Originally Posted by jschell

I tried this but I lost my security key and can't log in. Hopefully this doesn't cause me problems in trying to get my money.

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03-23-2013 , 01:33 PM

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ScreaminAsian

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ya my digipass app was like 3 phones ago

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03-23-2013 , 02:10 PM

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DrewOnTilt

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ya my digipass app was like 3 phones ago

Yeah. I still have my key, but I used a poker specific email address on my poker accounts. I no longer have access to that email account and can't remember it anyway.

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