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If it only could be so simple, do the right thing .. well guess we can hope for lame duck session.

Does a federal bill even have a shot in a lame duck session if every state's legislation besides Nevada is failing before a vote? The hope for me atleast was that when state by state poker became regulated it would force federal action. Now even if the feds agreed to pass a bill would it not take a very long time anyways to finish the whole process and have a site go live?

They don't seem eager to pass any legislation that doesn't effect their pockets directly. F the tribes though, Ernest Steven's did make it sound pretty clear the NIGA's just wanna get paid by owning the whole market free from fed tax and regulation of them. Might be a little payback for that whole lopsided land deal that wen't down back in the day, but if it would bring online poker back i'd be all for handing opposing tribes some new medals.

Half joking but we can take the power back on this one. We're just doing it wrong, or not even trying at all.

in the L.A. Times editorial tamiller linked to three posts above - up to 1 million people in california play online poker - is that even close to being true?

That's 1 in 38, including every man, woman, and child in California. Certainly not real-money players, but maybe you could approach that ratio if you included play-money players, Zynga, players that have only played once or twice, etc.

"... with the tribes pulling the strings in Sacramento ..."

ZOMG. What a crock of chit. Of horse chit to be precise. Because the racing industry's "hooves" were all over this bill from the get go.

Twin Spires and their buddies can go to hell.

What else is new?

its over dude its not happening

There's a hearing in the SGOC on Tuesday on a tribal gaming bill AB 2695. Even if indirectly, does this help the chances of making/forcing an agreement between the state and tribes for a poker bill? http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...01120120AB2695

http://www.pokernewsreport.com/onlin...ill-alive-9704

Maybe SB1463 still has life after all.

Cliffs: This bill is in more **** than Sandusky alone in a jail cell with cellmates Bubba, Jackson, and Maurice.

Proposed Online Poker Legislation in California Threatens US Market Viability

Any update to tribes on this list who now support SB1463? Or does anyone know what properties these tribes own? Barona, Viejas, and Pechanga stick out to me but idk the rest.

I'm going to start researching it and propose that someone more established on 2p2 please make some kind of CA opposing tribe boycott thread. If a week has passed and no one has taken it up i'll start one. By refusing to play at and contacting these card rooms to let them know this and also our views, we can impact a future bill at the very least even if it's too late for SB1463.

I would def be down with participating in a daily action plan aimed at supporting Ipoker in Ca.

I'm in.

good idea

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We can add Pala to the list of opposing casinos and cardrooms. I'll post a list later or tomorrow of as many of them as I can find.

Here is a list of the opposing tribes casino's and cardroom's. I'll look deeper into who is behind the alliances.

Agua Caliente Resort - Rancho Mirage, CA
Habernatolel Pomo Running Creek Casino - Upper Lake, CA (Opened in May 2012)
San Pablo Lytton Casino - San Pablo, CA
Rolling Hills Casino - Corning, CA
Table Mountain Casino - Fresno, CA
Cache Creek Casino - Capay Valley, CA
Viejas Casino - Alpine, CA
Pala Casino - San Diego, CA
Barona Casino - Lakeside, CA
Pechanga Casino - Temecula, CA

A few days left for anyone more 2p2 established and experienced to please make the boycott thread if interested. It needs all the love it can get when asking people not to go to their favorite usual casino.

Also people can always contact the places they don't go to let them know they refuse to gamble there for opposing Ipoker

Very informative cardsshark. No chance of sb 1463 to be re introduced any time soon then? Hopefully "inevitability" comes sooner than later.

CSM, we could use your help in the soon to be, California Boycott/Action Thread that either Micro McD or one of the 2p2 veterans will start soon.

Another one bites the dust. It's just laughably predictable at this point. What is a boycott going to do?

So Delaware gets the green light but Cali the state with the most poker players sits on the sidelines, f*%#n fantastic.

What is continuing to give money to places that are keeping online poker away from us and us saying nothing going to do? A hell of a lot less in the eyes of tribes and Politicians.

It's been the tribes with the loudest voice in this one, and they're winning because of it. Look at some of these LOL tribes opposing us, our stance is that weak.

I've already been refusing to go and hitting up my local casino to to let them know for weeks, and I personally plan on never going to any of these places in my life if they still oppose online poker once it comes around again.

Nobody is forcing anybody to do anything, just suggesting we stick up for ourselves in this and fight back. If you don't care about playing online poker for a few years fine, contribute nothing and vote Romney like that half of America, it's everyone's own choice and right.

I think Micro McD is right,

The tribes are killing the bill in Ca right now and anything we can do to change their position is a huge win for us. The Daily Action Plan has been a huge success and if we can get something similar for Ca it will help.

Maybe Rich can voice in on this. Even if sb 1463 is re introduced with less than favorable clauses, rake etc.. will they support (what I consider to be) a move forward in online poker. The more states approving online poker the more likely a bill on a federal level will be pushed, no? Maybe I'm just being selfish but I would like to see California advancing and possibly serving as a springboard for something bigger.