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06-08-2017 , 04:34 AM
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5-10 nlhe
Hero has AQo(100 bb) at cutoff raises to 40 villain cold calls from the bigblind
pot : 90, flop comes
Q33r villain(50bb) leads into us for 10 ,we raise to 60 villain reraise to 110, we flat call,
turn 5d
villain bets 180

what should we do now? He is representing a 3,but folding here makes me exploitable
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06-08-2017 , 06:44 AM
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Why did you raise the flop?
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06-08-2017 , 09:27 AM
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To get value from a weaker queen.
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06-08-2017 , 09:34 AM
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One more thing ,he took the wrong line by donking
Into me, if he had checked to me I would have bet 50-60,so I kind of ignored his lead and decided to bet
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06-09-2017 , 11:53 PM
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You are targeting a very small portion of his range with your raise and you also have a blocker so a weaker queen is discounted. The rest of his range is wa/wb. Call the flop and revaluate the turn. villain took a very odd line and my guess is that he has seen you make this type of "value raise" on the flop before.
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06-11-2017 , 07:05 PM
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You are targeting a very small portion of his range with your raise and you also have a blocker so a weaker queen is discounted. The rest of his range is wa/wb. Call the flop and revaluate the turn. villain took a very odd line and my guess is that he has seen you make this type of "value raise" on the flop before.
Min bet donk is the same as check. It seems bad to just call it with TPTK.

Raise flop bigger, call turn, call river.

We are pretty much the nutz here. The only 3x he should have is A3s, which are 2 combos and we may block one. Also, I can see him having KQ here.
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06-12-2017 , 08:00 AM
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Min bet donk is the same as check. It seems bad to just call it with TPTK.

Raise flop bigger, call turn, call river.

We are pretty much the nutz here. The only 3x he should have is A3s, which are 2 combos and we may block one. Also, I can see him having KQ here.
This. Sizing on flop is fine though, but bigger also works.
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06-12-2017 , 10:26 AM
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what does he 3-bet with? I would raise larger on the flop to define out hand. It's strong. If he 3-bets afterward, I feel like we should muck to AA, KK, QQ, AQ, KQ, A3, 34 and 35. Not all people swear by a hand range.
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06-13-2017 , 10:31 AM
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Realistically what worse hand is he calling with? What hands are we adding for balance? I think we make more by keepin our range uncapped and I think it's easier as an overall strategy. Raising allows him to play pretty well against our value range.
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06-13-2017 , 02:34 PM
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Fwiw, I am calling the flop with 100% of my range on my this board.
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06-14-2017 , 11:06 AM
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Calling his $10 bet is awful, it's basically checking back on a flop we would be cbetting with virtually our entire range.

If you're scared of villains having the nuts just grab a book, wait for AA and shove pre.

OP: as played just call down
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06-14-2017 , 12:56 PM
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Calling his $10 bet is awful, it's basically checking back on a flop we would be cbetting with virtually our entire range.

If you're scared of villains having the nuts just grab a book, wait for AA and shove pre.

OP: as played just call down
You clearly didn't read my post and your conclusory reasoning is far from helpful. Instead of thinking "OMG min bet means air I raise!" Why not try constructing a range we are getting 3 streets of value from and a strategy that doesn't leave us open to getting exploited. If all villain has to do to get you to put in action with 100% of your range is to minbet this flop, then his strategy is the superior one regardless of his holding.
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06-14-2017 , 03:30 PM
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Lol
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06-28-2017 , 10:26 AM
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Call down. as many have said, villain has only 2 or 3 combos of A3s, while he may have as many as 8 combos of KQ, 8 combos of QJ, at least 2 combos of QTs, 6 combos of AQ. It is also possible that villain sometimes shows up with air here.


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06-28-2017 , 12:59 PM
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Not having a raising range when someone bets 1/9th of the pot seems pretty bad to be honest.

He's obv a fish so you just have to pay him off.
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06-28-2017 , 03:28 PM
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I would count other combos other than A3s here. Villain can have other weird hands that beat you but his line is so funky that I wouldn't be folding the turn. Don't worry about being exploitable or not, villain isn't soul reading you or using GTO.
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