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11-01-2017 , 06:04 PM
My graph on that site is very similar. I stopped playing on it and I kept getting emails and incentives to come back. Like a free $100 or a free $50 randomly. I think it's decent for tourneys but my EV on that site is so out of touch with my win rate, that it looks so similar to your graph.
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11-28-2017 , 12:42 PM
It is funny I tried to link this thread to the winning network forum and a Mod Thrash370 kept calling me a rigtard. I win a good amount on the site but results too have been way under for a long time. I mostly lurk but in all my years of playing online never have I seen a thread like this where many solid winning players have the same experience..
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12-06-2017 , 10:21 AM
This is my graph from right after I reinstalled windows. I will never play on this site again. I was running massively under EV before this as well but it is too absurd. Was crushing the game but it is just too much. This is all at 50plo. So 48 buyins under ev in this sample just over 37k hand period.
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01-02-2018 , 04:53 AM
I use Holdem Manager. I filtered for this one hand:


    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37916539

    Hero (BTN): $11.28 (112.8 bb)
    SB: $14.74 (147.4 bb)
    BB: $10 (100 bb)
    UTG: $25.56 (255.6 bb)
    MP: $10 (100 bb)
    CO: $23.42 (234.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q K
    3 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, SB folds, BB raises to $0.90, Hero calls $0.70

    Flop: ($1.85) 5 Q K (2 players)
    BB bets $1, Hero raises to $2.89, BB raises to $8.70, Hero raises to $10.38, BB calls $0.40 and is all-in

    Turn: ($20.05) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: ($20.05) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $20.05 pot ($0.90 rake)
    Final Board: 5 Q K 4 2
    Hero showed Q K and won $9.57 (-$0.43 net)
    BB showed K Q and won $9.58 (-$0.42 net)



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    So it seems obvious that HM calculates Allin EV before the rake is substracted.

    You should therefore filter for all hands in which you were allin and compare
    expected result with actual result.

    Your real expection is than to have won 5% (NL10) less in the actual results due to rake.
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    01-02-2018 , 07:09 AM
    Sorry, I was.wrong.
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    01-22-2018 , 04:27 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sasha
    I'm playing on winning poker network. In the first 4 month I won 90k running little above ev.
    Since august 25th I'm 60k$ below ev
    The stakes I play is 1-2 through 15-30
    High games done run as much, so average game should be 2-4
    My biggest ev difference in 8 year mid stake career was about 40 buy ins

    I'm starting to doubt the cards are random.

    I forget how to post pics , if someone will tell me how to post my graph, i will gladly do so.

    I'm just wondering if this is possible, is someone had a similar swings in ev.
    I played on acr for a lot of years. It is the only site online I do not trust the rng. Something is up with those cards. Whatever you have if its not the nuts they got better and if they don't it will come by the time the river comes and I am talking runner runners the craziest beats on that site all day and night every day and it will go for months then it turns into years and you start wondering wtf is going on. I might see something like that on another site 1 to 4 times in a day but on acr its all day and night I am talking 20-50 times. Its sickest beats and they happen like its a coin flip. YOu lose like half of them and you can be over 90% fav every time. Its like well then I should be bad beating everyone like that too. NOpe if your behind your losing almost every time if you do bad beat its once in a blue moon feels like hit the lotto. For some reason the hands don't hold up on that site and I am talking almost the nuts. You just keep losing. Other sites when I have a big hand it usually holds up on acr I am waiting to see the bad beat card. the site is super sick. Maybe some players hacked the rng but somethings up something fishy going on.
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    01-22-2018 , 04:32 AM
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    Originally Posted by RevengeoftheDonks
    This is my graph from right after I reinstalled windows. I will never play on this site again. I was running massively under EV before this as well but it is too absurd. Was crushing the game but it is just too much. This is all at 50plo. So 48 buyins under ev in this sample just over 37k hand period.
    Well that can happen in plo plo a sick game. I know pro top plo player be up 300k one year and go flat broke the next year I saw him lose the last of his bankroll and just lose all year running under ev. My friend built up 30k hu on bovada in texas holdem and went to acr and ran up another 20k I told him to cash out and go to another site or that rng will get him and he laughed at me sayiing I am a rigtard. I told him its the only site I am saying is not right. He lost it all back running under ev and within a month his poker career is now over. He was making guys like jungleman sit out against him hu thats how talented he is. And he got destroyed within a month. That rng is not beatable. I only seen russians win on that site.
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    01-22-2018 , 04:51 AM
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    Originally Posted by DoucheBagSurplus
    It's good to see a reg say they have run above EV on WPN. I played over 500k hands in 2014 on wpn and am pushing 40k below EV, with the majority of those hands played at .5/1, 1/2, and 2/4
    I put in huge volume on acr and so have some of my friends. We all are well below ev and run around ev on other sites. I even saw dusty schmidt get mad one day streaming on twitch playing on acr and he talked about quit playing cause he could hardly win a hand his hands weren't holding up. He wasn't blaming acr but said just about poker in general that the edge is lot smaller. Doug Polk and Ryan Fee lasted what a few weeks before they left acr too. Maybe they were on it a month or 2 not sure but i know they quit playing on it.The site might be fine who knows and there has to be some big winners but I don't know of any.
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