HH wasnt recognized by the hand converter, hence the whacky look. anway, 2cnd orbit at table so no reads.advice welcome.

Pre Flop: Me(UTG) with [2c,Ac]
Me(UTG) raises 30, P5(CO) calls 30, P1(BTN) folds, P2(SB) folds, P3(BB) folds


Flop: (9h,4c,3c) (2 players)
Me(EP) bets 50, P5(LP) raises 130, Me(EP) calls 80


Turn: Tc (2 players)
Me(EP) checks, P5(LP) checks


River: 4s (2 players)
Me(EP) bets 207.50, P5(LP) raises 884.51, Me....

c/f river

really C/F ?? It seems like he could even have a lower flush OTR.

As played you have a bluffcatcher mostly

feel like a lower flush should bet the turn always, and I expect a bluff to do so as well.

I'd still c/c sometimes since villain could have JJ+,Tx or random bluffs. As played fold.

lol i would love to play with adam...

lets evaluate ranges here and go under the assumption that villain isnt a terrible hand reader

your range when you bet 207.50 on river here is a flush+

Villains range when he checks back turn is 3 combos of sets, air, and random pairs that decided it would be better to just raise flop to make hand easier to play. With villains air range, it is extremely unlikely he believes this river spot is a good spot to make a random bluff after he checked back turn and is now only repping a super thin value range vs an obvious bluff catcher.

So I think when you bet river you get called 0% of the time by worse, folds by air, and jammed on by boats, furthermore, when he bets river he is probably always value betting, and you beat 0% of his value range, since he is most certainly not raising flop with a fd and checking back turn when he hits, or making some super thin value bet on river with Tx or JJ if he goes 3/4 pot +. Perhaps if he bet like 1/5th pot on river id consider a call, putting him on making a bad vbet.

May i ask a question, why don't you 3bet+callAI on the flop? Is calling higher EV in some way, or is it something to balance your range?

def not c/f river. but chk river.

Agree on checking this river, i couldnt c/f it either. If the river hadnt paired the board, do people prefer betting or a c/r?

we dont chk because the board is paired, we check because betting doesnt make sense under most circumstances (like us floating a lot OOP or him being a retard)

There is no way you should ever check fold this river.

actually, i didn't give enough weight to the turn checkback, but this is still a supercharged bluffcatcher at the very least. I could see an argument for folding with a confident read, but I think its pretty dangerous as a default line.

C/F river is borderline retarded. Check call all the way.

i bet vs a standard reg if you get bombed into on this river as played you are losing lots of $ when you call, if he bets something like half pot or less however, id call.

Given positions I don't think we should be too excited to get the money AI on the flop. It's clearly +EV to call it off once villain shoves over a 3bet, but we can't be sure that we have much (if any) fold equity on the 3bet, and our equity probably isn't quite good enough to 3bet as if it is for "value."

Obviously 3betting is okay in a vacuum, and it's pretty difficult to compare the EV of 3betting with the EV of calling. With that said, it is my default to flat my entire continuing range vs a flop raise in this spot. If anything, we may be able to get away with only 3betting sets.

OP,

I like your line up until river. At that point, I would check and then snapcall a bet. Opponent is unknown so who knows what he is up to. Gotta call to find out