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08-22-2015 , 02:02 AM
i would just donk jam because lol bovada
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08-22-2015 , 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Pots-For-Sale
Have you ever played live poker? You have GTO, the unexploitable strategy, which in theory wins money from every other strategy and breaks even against it self.

Then you have exploitative play, which is being extremely exploitable and deviating away from "optimal play" because it becomes more profitable to do so.

Basically it's pretty tough to accomplish extremely exploitative play profitably via most online poker because of data mining, huds, ect, ect.

On Bovada, similar to live poker, it's a little different. Since no one can have a long term read on you it's possible to deviate from optimal play and make more money by becoming unbalanced in such a way that you exploit the population and not worry about balance so much. I.e. You can fold the top parts of your ranges in spots where they just have it, ect...

In most spots I would exploit the population here by just folding AQ on Bovada in this particular spot unless I have a real read that tells me otherwise and not just villain has 3 bet a few times. Because my read of the population is that they don't 3 bet UTG all that wide.

When my read of the population changes I'll consider changing my game plan in regards to this type of spot. The more regs that infiltrate the games the more we have to worry about these spots. But no one is printing money against my exploitable approach here at this time. Imo...
Ok, I see you are saying what I thought you were saying and it makes sense. That said, I think that folding AQs in a game above 200 on an anonymous site 5 handed is too snug.
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08-22-2015 , 07:01 AM
Yeah just ship it, zeebo theorem baby
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08-22-2015 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by surf doc
Ok, I see you are saying what I thought you were saying and it makes sense. That said, I think that folding AQs in a game above 200 on an anonymous site 5 handed is too snug.

Fair enough
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08-23-2015 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Pots-For-Sale
Like here for instance if the river is the 3c instead of the As how good are you feeling about x/c it off? He would have to be a maniac for me to be fist pumping there.
its really hard to make backdoor flushes, i would still call it off, and when the club does hit , its actually a card that villain won't be apt to bet a ton of the time just because he knows that making backdoor flushes is hard and won't be given that much credit, basically its a spot he knows he will get looked up by trips more than usual. Its not a scare card imo.

fwiw , checking on the river is ok , some ppl lead here if opponent is playing like a nit b1*** and checking back tpwk type of stuff , depending on your read i would either check or lead here, if readless , go for the cr and hate your life when he checks back aces full of kings.
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08-31-2015 , 01:57 AM
You're playing AQ, not your range. Consider what you'd do with your other hands and why, and that should give you a very solid answer.

You can even look at the hand from your opponent's perspective: how often should he bluff to correspond to value bets and/or attempts to push you off of Kx chops? How often will you have Ax relative to the other hands?

Not checking allows your opponent to bet with perfect information. Leading makes it extremely difficult for you to represent a bluff and probably shuts down most, if not all, of your opponent's bluff(raise)s on the river.

Easy check.

Edit: Regarding the case for doing anything else pre-flop, check out the math on the other options. They're all ridiculous compared to calling. 4-bet/calling might have marginally positive expected value; but, then you not only forego the EV of calling with such a strong hand, but also forfeit the ability to have any reasonably strong holdings on high card heavy board textures in re-raised pots out of position, which isn't going to end well. If you fold, then you're almost certainly either playing too tight pre-flop and/or being exploited by a pre-flop re-raise from any two cards.
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08-31-2015 , 07:12 PM
I'd go $24 on the river.
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