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Old 09-13-2011, 05:21 AM   #241
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Re: Possible collusion/softplaying/botting on 1knl on iPoker.

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Definitely. I can name 50 more accounts with the same stats.
go ahead please!
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Old 09-13-2011, 05:42 AM   #242
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there must be a genius behind these bots ^^

What are their opening sizes from the different positions? - because how are you able to open 50% from CO and code a bot to playback profitable if we say 3bets 30%? from BTN v CO
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Old 09-13-2011, 06:46 AM   #243
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They play up to 10/20 including HU at 6max tables.
I played 3 handed with a bot at 25/50 yesteerday
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Old 09-13-2011, 11:11 AM   #244
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Re: Possible collusion/softplaying/botting on 1knl on iPoker.

I've been in contact with PTR regarding this. I only have a handful names myself so please pm me with suspected names, stakes and game type.
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:44 PM   #245
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go ahead please!
It is very likely that the botter(s) is following this thread. The last time the screennames were posted those accounts disappeared and a new batch emerged. They are very easy to spot though. Just look at the cc% stats.
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Old 09-14-2011, 12:01 AM   #246
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Re: Possible collusion/softplaying/botting on 1knl on iPoker.

played with them tonight, they are quite fun, can also tell they are both by the fact they can make a decision for 200bb in about 0.6 seconds.

worryingly, i started trying to fk with its preflop ranges (3betting a tonne of its co opens otb)/much wider for value etc and after this happened 3/4 times it left and came back after 30 mins. I restarted hem after a while and its session stats had changed an was opening tighter and slightly more positionally aware (still 0 coldcall%- never speaks in chat etcetc).

i looked at some hands from last month when ptr was not tracking correctly. The bots won a fortune.
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:44 AM   #247
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Re: Possible collusion/softplaying/botting on 1knl on iPoker.

They are winning a lot and they do adapt.

x2 Louis. Not going to say any SN here anymore. Whoever done those bots is reading those threads on a daily basic.
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Old 09-14-2011, 10:30 AM   #248
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Re: Possible collusion/softplaying/botting on 1knl on iPoker.

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All of the accounts mentioned in OP have disappeared from the 5/10 games it seems? Thats sounds verrrrry fishy to me. Either they got all banned, or they all switched nicks, but it looks like too much of a coincidence. I really wish we could get legit iPoker feedback on this.

Do people still notice players playing this "bot-style" on ipoker or elsewhere? Or maybe an "upgraded" version of this style?
I just PT'rd the first 25 at work and 75% of them stopped playing in April 2010, when this thread was started!

hmm......
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:46 AM   #249
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Re: Possible collusion/softplaying/botting on 1knl on iPoker.

So why hasn't iPoker done anything about them if it's such common knowledge? What has been their response?
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Old 09-15-2011, 12:58 AM   #250
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also, what sites or networks is it proven they are playing on these days ?

I just found this thread and was pretty shocked to be honest. How is it possible that a bot is beating a tough competition for a decent clip over large samples without colluding etc. ? I mean, wtf ?
I am very worried about the future of online poker and hope that at least stars will keep their games clean from botting.

What are the ipoker Regs doing about it now and what are Our pans for the future if the situation gets worse ?
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Old 09-15-2011, 02:16 PM   #251
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Re: Possible collusion/softplaying/botting on 1knl on iPoker.

They are also playing on Party and had played on Full Tilt. I heard from someone they are also on Ongame but I can't confirm because I don't play there.
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Old 09-15-2011, 02:52 PM   #252
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Re: Possible collusion/softplaying/botting on 1knl on iPoker.

[QUOTE=Louis Cyphre;28735485]They are also playing on Party and had played on Full Tilt. I heard from someone they are also on Ongame but I can't confirm because I don't play there.[/QUOTE

On Party, what country does it say they come from?
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Old 09-15-2011, 03:08 PM   #253
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Letricle,

He is talking about the Australian/Portugese/Russian guys that cold call close to 0%. Although a couple (Vaqueiro, Jautenia) have chatted with me.
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Old 09-15-2011, 03:09 PM   #254
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The two I looked up where from Portugal and Australia.
The ones on FTP where from all over the world: Russia + Australia (mostly), New Zealand, Singapore, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Germany, South Africa
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Old 09-15-2011, 04:34 PM   #255
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Ok, ty for answers, confirmed my own beliefs.
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