It really is unreal that they promised a fix for over a year, and after working hard on it came up with a solution that is 100% invisible and fixed not even one thing. Not even made it 5% better and I would argue it made it worse potentially.

I would suggest a sitout protest but to be completely honest I have lost all interest in party after anticipating this fix and seeing there incompetence or neglect once again. I could care less if they fix this anymore, party imo is a waste of time after seeing how stars deals with issues etc.

Now in a few months party will probably come out with some buggy version of rush poker to keep on pace with the other sites but once again will realize they missed the mark it will be a huge flop. I would like to compare party poker to blackberry, they started out super strong and innovative and became so overconfident and miss manged that now they are behind and nipping on the competitors heels making poor poor decisions.

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Big +1 to what moonshine is saying here.

I think the fix has helped the lobby and made it look better. I no longer have to use 8/16 tables to sitout and block tables to ensure that the total bumhunters won't get in a game just for camping.

I think issuing warnings and bans like stars is the best, but party's support isn't on top of things enough to get it done. Sitout one/sitout all seems like the best software based solution. I think how

People can still come to tables and sitout when you are 1/6 at 6max table. The table will close after ~5minutes or so, but it's still annoying to try and start a game and see one of the many people listed come to the table and sitout. What is also annoying is seeing 3-4 other regs contiously open new tables when they have NO intention of ever starting a game with anyone but a fish.

Just wanted to say that your customer service team seems to be uninformed when it comes to this issue (big surprise...). They've shown no knowledge of the situation at all when I've reported players.

No knowledge could be the same as having full knowledge of everything Party is doing, since it seems like they are not doing much at all.

It is just gruesome these days at msnl how whenever the fish sits out, the majority of players will also sit out at that table, ready to instantly sit back in if the fish does. The fish realize it too, I've seen many of them comment on it.

The sad part is that Party doesn't realize that if the fish leave the site because it's become so predatory, then the regs will leave the site too and their revenue falls to zero.

And this latest fix is absolutely atrocious and does nothing to solve this issue. It also makes it worse since anyone trying to start a table now automatically gets booted if someone joins their table and sits out for a period of time.

It's taken 2 years for them to come up with this non-solution, I can only assume Party is done. What a terribly terribly run business with zero foresight. And the common response of "we're working on a solution but don't have a timeframe yet" is just so infuriating as it's been the same thing for 2 years.

Share price has DIVED in May as well.

PartyRep, I played a few thousand hands recently and this issue is worse then ever. That either says party is issuing no warnings, or the players don't respect partys authority. Either way that is pretty bad.

I'm really not sure what you guys don't understand. Players asking for this fix is not to benefit us. I'm certain all our winrates would go up if we always instantly sat out with fish and never player other regulars with lesser edges. Your traffic is dying. For every fish that plays less and less you lose 5 regulars that play at that table, yet you guys make up excuses and do nothing. It's almost as if party thinks they are doing us a favor by introducing this system.

We as players can go play on any site we wish you are not doing us a favor. I hardly play on party anymore but the moronicness of this tilts me. Players pointed out these issues because it is ruining partys games which affects party and slightly inconveniences players to move bank rolls to other sites. I'm really not sure why you feel the need to make excuses and say things are coming when they clearly aren't. If you don't want to do anything just say sorry we like the direction the site is going.

Case closed people can leave or maybe everyone of the regulars that are actually helping the games along should also start to sitout when fish sits out. I actually like this idea, they can sitout until partys traffic drops so low from players leaving that it dies, and all those weaker players will be forced to other sites that actually CARE about them as well as understand the benefits it makes to the sites.

I'll be interested to read Party's next financial report. They previously blamed lack of competitiveness on Stars and FTP's unfair advantage in having access to the US market. I'm guessing they will have to come up with something else to blame their declining traffic on.

remove sit out button is by far the best option imo

ye seriously, this hasn´t worked at all. The lobby looks a little better but apart from that it´s the same. Just make it so you can´t sit out at one table and play another. Or you have to hire people that starts warning players.

Party rep could you tell us if you have any new plans?

It's dumb when I'm sitting alone at a 6m or FR table waiting to play anybody that joins, then a sitout-reg comes and sits out, then I have to leave the table and find a new one while I have a bunch of other tables running just because Party's new ineffective 'fix' closes the tables. It's not a big deal, but it's f'n stupid.

Maybe you should all take your rolls off party and short BPTY.L so that when they keep making terrible decisions you make money and laugh instead of lose money and get mad.

I think a lot of us would like to, but you know it isn't that simple.

A ton of Party regs are already playing a good amount on Stars, but besides that you have very few good options.

OnGame/Bwin - who knows what will happen to the rest of the ongame skins once bwin merges with Party
888 - ok traffic at midstakes but horrible software
ipoker - LOL, kill me now
micrograming, etc. - way too much risk for me on skins/network defaulting.

you didn't mention Merge. do you think we should put money on there, or just avoid any US-related site?

Good question. I'm not really sure. Haven't really looked into it, but the fact that it serves the US in this climate makes me nervous, although I don't have any more evidence to back up that concern.