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04-15-2010 , 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by WeeFatShug
Also, I`m not really sure now which thread comments should be posted as there are two official 888 threads. Can they be merged or one closed?
Post in whichever you like, we are reading both.

This is more of a casual poker thread for chat about players and hands so I don't want to merge.
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04-15-2010 , 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by WeeFatShug
Apologies for being a cantankerous old git but..... Does "much smaller" actually mean much smaller or does it mean that multi-account entries will be eliminated? If it`s possible to MA in freerolls it`s possible to MA in other games as well and that`s obviously a worry.

Also, I`m not really sure now which thread comments should be posted as there are two official 888 threads. Can they be merged or one closed?
I mean the amount of MA will be smaller.

Regarding MA in other games, while I won't say it is impossible for someone to do so, we are focusing are fraud efforts in stopping that.

The freerolls you are referring to are open for all players, including demo/play money populations, where we simply don't run as many checks on. Once they deposit/receive MT/play in real money game we are far more strict in our checks.

Again, it's not the best scenario, but I think it's better with our resources.

Regardless of all that, we should def do more efforts to limit MA in unrestricted freerolls as well.
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04-15-2010 , 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon G
I am employed by Pacific/888, my point was just that I'm not sat in an office cubicle stressing out when negative stuff is posted. I'm more than happy to agree that the site isn't perfect, and I'm happy when stuff gets brought up because it means work can start on a fix.
I, on the other hand, do work at 888, although I don't stress easily either

Yeti is here to get unfiltered information from you guys to us and vice versa. The last thing we want from him is to sugarcoat the reality here or to spam 888 messages. It will be utterly pointless to hire someone with Yeti's experience and poker knowledge for that.

I'm here cause I like 2p2 and used to hang out here when i was a mediocre MTT/SNG grinder, way before I started working at 888. I also think that the amount of data and feedback I get here is crucial for me and 888.
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04-15-2010 , 07:46 AM
Ok. I get the picture. 888 reps that lie around stoned while not quite really working for 888 even though they are. Or maybe aren`t........... j/k

Thanks for the honest answers although I could pick holes. It`s appreciated.

Keeping a grumpy old git eye on things.

Shug
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04-15-2010 , 12:47 PM
I have no clue what you said, but i'll take it as an insult and carry on
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04-15-2010 , 02:07 PM
Not an insult, but take it any way you like. I hear Josem is a top-notch translator.
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04-16-2010 , 04:23 PM
Would be cool with more live events for the VIP's or stuff like that.
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04-16-2010 , 04:50 PM
Hey I just need to rake $200 more (400 points) to get VIP status through the fast track program. I dont kno why but I'm well happy about it. Can someone tell what kind of live events I can be invited to?
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04-16-2010 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by fishyfishboy
Hey I just need to rake $200 more (400 points) to get VIP status through the fast track program. I dont kno why but I'm well happy about it. Can someone tell what kind of live events I can be invited to?
I've been a VIP for over 3 months now and haven't received anything, no invitations, no extra bonuses, no "fantastic prizes".
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04-16-2010 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by koxx
I've been a VIP for over 3 months now and haven't received anything, no invitations, no extra bonuses, no "fantastic prizes".
Yeh I have been one for probably over a year and I have got nothing at all!
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04-16-2010 , 09:15 PM
im vip diamond and i received some stuff
i got extra bonus and etc
so dont worry guys it will come ;o)
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04-17-2010 , 03:49 AM
I know many sites have VIP events like tickets for football game, private parties, birthday and xmas gifts etc. I hope pacific will have things similar to it.

They have a rather tough requirement and we do have need to at least rake $30,000 per year for basic VIP status.
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04-17-2010 , 06:39 AM
(My VIP host at LuckyAce Diego has asked me to post my comments here for the 888 reps to see, so here we go


I raked $40,000 last year and 888/LA didn't give me anything. In fact they imposed ridiculously unfair cashout limits, and were very slow to pay every single month!

888 sites have a well deserved reputation for taking notoriously bad care of their high stakes players ALTHOUGH I think this is changing now that they are assigning VIP hosts to take care of customers.

Diego at LuckyAce however has given me extremely good service and I would suggest anyone who has problems at LA to speak to him. He will take very good care of you and do everything he can to help you.

It is obvious at times that his hands are tied by the polices of 888 but it is very obvious to me that he is doing his very best, DOES understand the issues at 888, and DOES care about the players. Dealing with him was a breath of fresh air and I suggest the owners of LA give him a pay raise (seriously).

Unfortunately there are various problems with this network, mostly do to the software, especially at their heads-up games. I have many times made suggestions that would increase the rake that would be generated for 888, and benefit the players also, but it seems the people running the show are still lagging behind other sites in these areas.

The amount of action & quality of games have deteriorated substantially since the introduction of the player rewards programs, especially since the table limit has been increased, which allows an infinite number of terrible players to suck money out of the poker economy but refuse action to ANYONE that is barely competent.

888 needs to reduce their table limit at headsup games, and force people to play at tables, or lose them. Currently various bumhunters such as Chilli, SSSOOOSSS911, Sixtspok, Abeldabel, umka1, MRQQQQQQQQ, Mrssmek89, Nicky0872, etc. sit on infinite numbers of Headsup tables, and will refuse to play ANYONE except the absolutely worst possible fish. If you sit at their tables, they will refuse to leave, and sometimes even table block YOU.

The software needs to have the following changes:

1) If you sit at a headsup table, you must POST BLINDS or lose the table
eg. go look at Party HU tables, you get 1 chance to post the blind, if you dont post, you get a 2nd chance, if you dont post the 2nd time you get booted from the table and you cannot rejoin that same table for 5 minutes.

2a) high-carding for the button should occur (this stops angle-shooting)
2b) you cannot unpost/post after highcarding, you MUST play the first hand
ie. The first hand position eg button/bigblind must be decided by a flip of a card, not by who sat down at the table first. This removes angle shooting, and the ability of people to steal blinds for 1 hand and then sit out.

3) A maximum number of empty headsup tables (ie. people cant park themselves on infinite tables and never pay rake ... the tables are OWNED by 888, you should pay them to play! You shouldnt be able to wait all day, suck the money out of the economy, and pay the absolute minimum amount of rake)

These minor changes to the software would dramatically increase the action on the site, be good for players who want to pay 888 rake, and obviously benefit 888 since they would make MORE rake.

If any of the 888 reps want to talk to me you can PM me here.
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04-17-2010 , 06:57 AM
I agree with everything you wrote AuroythmiX, and I agree that Diego is awesome and deserves a pay rise (he's my VIP manager as well, and has called me on my phone every time I sent him an email with a question which is just mega professional and nice).
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04-17-2010 , 07:44 AM
The other thing I should say however, is that Gareth Edwards has been VERY helpful every time I have ever contacted him at 888. I forgot to include this in my first email but I should definitely mention him.

He is very friendly, and has always done his best to help with any problems on the 888 network. I have made suggestions to him in the past that he has implemented very quickly. I could be wrong but I think his position is the head of Poker Activation (not sure what this means) but he is a really good guy too, if anyone needs anyone to deal with.

I think there are some very good people at 888, I just wish they got the support they need from the rest of the company!
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04-17-2010 , 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by AuroythmiX
(My VIP host at LuckyAce Diego has asked me to post my comments here for the 888 reps to see, so here we go


I raked $40,000 last year and 888/LA didn't give me anything. In fact they imposed ridiculously unfair cashout limits, and were very slow to pay every single month!

888 sites have a well deserved reputation for taking notoriously bad care of their high stakes players ALTHOUGH I think this is changing now that they are assigning VIP hosts to take care of customers.

Diego at LuckyAce however has given me extremely good service and I would suggest anyone who has problems at LA to speak to him. He will take very good care of you and do everything he can to help you.

It is obvious at times that his hands are tied by the polices of 888 but it is very obvious to me that he is doing his very best, DOES understand the issues at 888, and DOES care about the players. Dealing with him was a breath of fresh air and I suggest the owners of LA give him a pay raise (seriously).

Unfortunately there are various problems with this network, mostly do to the software, especially at their heads-up games. I have many times made suggestions that would increase the rake that would be generated for 888, and benefit the players also, but it seems the people running the show are still lagging behind other sites in these areas.

The amount of action & quality of games have deteriorated substantially since the introduction of the player rewards programs, especially since the table limit has been increased, which allows an infinite number of terrible players to suck money out of the poker economy but refuse action to ANYONE that is barely competent.

888 needs to reduce their table limit at headsup games, and force people to play at tables, or lose them. Currently various bumhunters such as Chilli, SSSOOOSSS911, Sixtspok, Abeldabel, umka1, MRQQQQQQQQ, Mrssmek89, Nicky0872, etc. sit on infinite numbers of Headsup tables, and will refuse to play ANYONE except the absolutely worst possible fish. If you sit at their tables, they will refuse to leave, and sometimes even table block YOU.

The software needs to have the following changes:

1) If you sit at a headsup table, you must POST BLINDS or lose the table
eg. go look at Party HU tables, you get 1 chance to post the blind, if you dont post, you get a 2nd chance, if you dont post the 2nd time you get booted from the table and you cannot rejoin that same table for 5 minutes.

2a) high-carding for the button should occur (this stops angle-shooting)
2b) you cannot unpost/post after highcarding, you MUST play the first hand
ie. The first hand position eg button/bigblind must be decided by a flip of a card, not by who sat down at the table first. This removes angle shooting, and the ability of people to steal blinds for 1 hand and then sit out.

3) A maximum number of empty headsup tables (ie. people cant park themselves on infinite tables and never pay rake ... the tables are OWNED by 888, you should pay them to play! You shouldnt be able to wait all day, suck the money out of the economy, and pay the absolute minimum amount of rake)

These minor changes to the software would dramatically increase the action on the site, be good for players who want to pay 888 rake, and obviously benefit 888 since they would make MORE rake.

If any of the 888 reps want to talk to me you can PM me here.
This is an excellent post.
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04-17-2010 , 10:05 AM
YEAHH
Diego is awesome, he is my vip manager too^^
Everytime i have something to ask or to say i just contact him and he always have goods answers for me
He take good care of me
He is actually one of the reason why i hate to see people talk ****ting about 888 when ive never had such a good PERSONALISED service from any other poker site
and i agree with all you said Auroythmix
Except that you seem to think 40k rake a year is big, its not
;o)
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04-17-2010 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by fishyfishboy
Hey I just need to rake $200 more (400 points) to get VIP status through the fast track program. I dont kno why but I'm well happy about it. Can someone tell what kind of live events I can be invited to?
there are lot of players who didnt make VIP status for few status points as you. These players made 40-50k+ rake for them and didnt get anything special. Maybe yes , but i dont.
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04-17-2010 , 07:29 PM
I must say that AuroythmiX had a verry good point. and i hope they will do something about it.
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04-18-2010 , 05:12 AM
I think i agree with everything AuroythmiX says here. HU-structure as on party ftw(although i dont think 888 cares at all, and its probably way to difficult task for their lazy programmers). And thank you very much Diego, you are the best one
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04-18-2010 , 10:05 AM
Over 100 HU tables at 200NL +, and not a single game running. I think 2 tables per limit would be much better. It looks too ugly now.
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04-18-2010 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by AuroythmiX
long post
I don't wanna quote the whole thing but I appreciate you taking the time to write this and I completely agree with basically everything you mentioned.

I'm gonna forward the whole thing to my contact now. Thanks again.
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04-18-2010 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by LuckyfishZ
Over 100 HU tables at 200NL +, and not a single game running. I think 2 tables per limit would be much better. It looks too ugly now.
Completely agree, it's an unbelievable eyesore.
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04-19-2010 , 04:39 AM
Jon G

I think to 888 maximalize the headsup tables a player can have to 3 or 4 is not too hard to make for programmers and also the best solution.
but its not good to maximalize overall headsup tables at the site like its at party poker. if need to fight for the empty tables every day every regular will hate each other, plus normal players wont play headsup cos only the toughest 1% geeks will wait at the tables who play 10 hours+ a day, that rule would be good only for them but not for the 99% of other average players who would play each other and make rake.

Last edited by ciwf; 04-19-2010 at 04:56 AM.
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04-19-2010 , 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ciwf
Jon G

I think to 888 maximalize the headsup tables a player can have to 3 or 4 is not too hard to make for programmers and also the best solution.
but its not good to maximalize overall headsup tables at the site like its at party poker. if need to fight for the empty tables every day every regular will hate each other, plus normal players wont play headsup cos only the toughest 1% geeks will wait at the tables who play 10 hours+ a day, that rule would be good only for them but not for the 99% of other average players who would play each other and make rake.
Loool. 1 post. Hes prolly one of the horrible bumhunter that only can win vs the very worst players, and hes afraid he wont get tables. It is not like 1% player get table, on party they do get more regular action because of table ruling system, and they do have quite a few tables, i guess about 20-25 per limit. And regular games/action is like non-existing now, so it cannot be worse for 888. LOLOLOLOLOL@ciwf

And also, i think its a pretty fair overall that the best players that want to play poker gets to have the highest limit tables. If you for instance cannot beat anyone reg at 5/10 you should be pleased to get to play 2/4, not sitting waiting for spewing italian mafia at 25/50

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