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12-26-2012 , 08:35 AM
villain is playing 19/14/9 after 400 hands

i raise flop to drive out the 3rd guy with the intention of folding to a 3bet
also i think i can get value from almost all his donking range 33-99 hands

ott thinking is the same, i bet small to keep his pp's in.

his c/r makes no sense to me other than he is holding 66? why didn't he
3bet the flop?
he donked out with Ahigh and called my raise?
he can't have deuces accept for A2s or quads which is very unprobable.

still, its a bet/call/check/raise line by him and i think folding is the best option?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

CO ($50)
Button ($53.75)
SB ($97.25)
BB ($50)
Hero (UTG) ($50)
MP ($53.15)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 10, 10
Hero bets $1.50, MP calls $1.50, 2 folds, SB calls $1.25, 1 fold

Flop: ($5) 6, 2, 2 (3 players)
SB bets $3, Hero raises to $9, 1 fold, SB calls $6

Turn: ($23) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $9, SB raises to $25, Hero folds

Total pot: $41 | Rake: $2.05
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12-26-2012 , 08:43 AM
Cant bet like that OTT it looks super weak, if I m him I might raise you with any two here getting superb odds on a bluff as well cause you can barely ever call.
At least bet 12-15 for free SD.
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12-26-2012 , 10:48 AM
reasons for raising flop?

turn you should of bet bigger, there turn raise makes no sense, if they flaoted with Ax they would surly call that turn and not raise it. looks FOS or a bad line for value
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12-26-2012 , 11:02 AM
I can definitely see villain playing this way with a hand like 66. He leads the flop, expecting you to raise it a ton with a wide range. And check/raises the turn as you continue to bluff.

With that said, I can't think of many other hands that lead the flop for value that you beat. WA/WB applies here, so I probably just call the flop and re-evaluate.

I don't like your turn bet either, for reasons already stated.
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12-26-2012 , 11:13 AM
Sb donking into 2 players on the flop most likely has a made hand or gutter. I'm happy just calling flop and almost always calling down.
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12-26-2012 , 12:13 PM
Just call flop imo, what's the point with raising. Makes no sense.
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12-26-2012 , 01:03 PM
Raising isn't bad. You can get value from worse overpairs/6x. You need to bet the turn bigger imo. Once we get x/r on turn villain is reeping A6s/66 or trying to reep the scarecard vs our weak bet on the turn. So the question is how often is villain bluffing? For one he doesn't have many (if any) pure bluffs in his range once we get to the turn like this. So he needs to be turning a made hand into a bluff. What is villains 3rd stat you gave(9)? 3bet or agg factor?
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12-26-2012 , 04:54 PM
Really nice hand
Raising the flop narrows the range of your hands,
Checking behind the ace on the turn is a possibility for a bluff catcher
As played
Bet more on the turn
And fold
A nit is never bluffing there
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12-26-2012 , 05:43 PM
Seamas111 I dont think we'll get that much value from a six if we raise him, he should fold a lot of times. We want to keep 6x, 77-99 in the hand so we shouldn't risk losing them with a raise. And if villain actually got a hand, we'll get away much cheaper.
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