+1. Apparently now there is software that auto sits you back in when the client boots you. Hugely bad for already worsening games. Think this change would be brilliant, happy to send the email once you draft it.

****, **** and **** are all the same person.

You can tell if you look at the ptr comments on **** and **** they both have a guy called **** saying ty etc like its the account owner.

Also the stats are identical on ptr, they play the same games (sit 4 hu and bumhunt a load of 4 max tables)

All log on and off at same time etc

Can anyone else confirm this?

If this is the case everyone should notify iPoker.

It might be a good idea to take these posts down and discuss via PM so SloGreenFish doesnt realize ppl are aware and start balancing his starting/ending times.

I'm 100% sure casXXX and XXXXlo are the same person. I reported them about 6 months ago and nothing was done it seems.

the quote from AO needs editing

+1 to Chirpy's idea, this has to be implemented

+1

huge +1 to chirpy's idea.

+1

I'm a 2p2 fish. How do i do it? MODs feel free to edit out the names.

OK, seems like a pretty good reaction to this! As promised, here's a template letter for anyone who feels strongly about this matter. Hopefully we can get a good number of us to send it off and something will be done about it..

Dear xxx,

There is a worrying trend on your site which I feel needs urgently addressing for the sake of fairness and the good spirit of the games. I am not sure if you are aware, but there are a number of players (for example “NutterRutter”) who have adopted a strategy of “table camping” ie persistently sitting out at a large number of tables with no intention of playing. They simply block seats for hours on end, instantly rejoining when their 7:30 minutes expire and they are forcibly removed from the table. They take position on the empty seat and sit for as long as it takes until a weaker player or “fish” takes that seat, sometimes hours on end. They will often keep sitting out even if the table fills with players they refuse to play against, just so a weaker player cannot take that seat, and instead has to fall into one of their traps on another table.

As I’m sure you can appreciate, it is in no way fair that they play 100% of their hands with direct position on a fish because they’re prepared to take the moral low ground and repeatedly sit out/ table block all day. I have reported this behaviour a few times but nothing can realistically be done unless there is a change in the software. The players in question have even gloated that if they are given warnings/bans they can easily open an account on a new skin and continue as normal.

These players do nothing to help start games, and are fully responsible for them instantly breaking when a fish busts by refusing to play a single hand afterwards. I fully believe their actions, (and the subsequent actions of others who feel if one player is acting so scummily they have no choice to compete but to do the same) are one of the prime reasons that games are dying and the whole ecosystem is suffering. No one likes to feel hunted and even huge fish are put off when their opponents exhibit such predatory behaviour. They want to feel like they're gambling with others who want to do the same, not being systematically exploited by people who refuse to play with anyone else but them. Renowned player “Art59…” admitted as much in the chat when he had a number of Chinese players following him to every table...

Of course nobody is saying that anyone should be forced to play in a game they don't want to. They have the right to decline action from anyone they want. But they absolutely should not be allowed to seat block and table camp in games that are already running, with no intention of playing.

I am aware that Ipoker are notoriously deaf to any player feedback and often extremely slow in implementing any changes, but I see no reason why they wouldn’t be open to the idea of making a small adjustment to the software to eradicate this problem. Basically, if you're sitting out at one table, you have to sit out at all other tables. (When the next bb comes round.) People who genuinely need to sit out to go to the toilet or answer the door can do so still - The only people this hurts is the table campers.

This is not forcing them to play any games they don't want to, they can always leave the table, but they no longer have the choice to sit at tables while refusing to play, blocking seats and preying on potential fish at the expense of the table starters. In fact they CAN still do this, but not while simultaneously playing in another game - as soon as they sit in to play their first fish on one table, their options are to sit out (table camp at all tables) or sit and play with the fish whilst fairly looking for free seats in running games like everyone else does.

This would drastically improve the playing environment at Ipoker and I can't see that it would have any drawbacks. There has been a great deal of support for this change in the forums and everyone I have spoken to agrees that it would be widely beneficial.

Please ensure that this letter is passed on to the relevant people at IPoker. Hopefully they fully appreciate the scale of the problem and have the foresight to realise that it’s in their best interests, as well as the honest players’, to eradicate it once and for all.

Regards,
xxx

Sent

+1

kaspersky keeps saying there's some trojan every time I try to install William Hill. Anyone else have this issue?

So AP and Art59 have both seemingly disappeared. Thanks Rutter and the Chinese you bunch of total ****s.

Thread about this in NVG today. I'd hold off ,it could be a real hacking/trojan.

god dammit. If I have to reformat I think I'm gonna lose my mind.

pokerboth: how you always hit ?

NutterRutter: how you always bluff?

pokerboth: how always

pokerboth: and then rutter take all with nuts every hand

pokerboth: hahhaha
pokerboth: how the biggest fish have super acc?

NutterRutter: maybe im not the biggest fish?

NutterRutter: have you heard of something called variance?


pokerboth: ruter

NutterRutter: yo

pokerboth: if if i see you in live game
NutterRutter: yeah

NutterRutter: bring it on
pokerboth: i killed you

NutterRutter: really?

pokerboth: y

NutterRutter: if you see me, please make yourself known

NutterRutter: I want to know who you clowns are

pokerboth: welcome hu

NutterRutter: why does everyone just pick on me?
NutterRutter: there are plenty of bumhunters on the site
NutterRutter: probably half of the player pool

NutterRutter: if i changed my name as much as some people don

NutterRutter: no one would have a clue who I was

pokerboth: all we knows whos you are

pokerboth: if you change we know

NutterRutter: bet you that you wont

NutterRutter: not if I change as much as someone like Craigcoles
pokerboth: you come every
pokerboth: day

pokerboth: and sit in facking all days

NutterRutter: he has been craigcoles, lollesdennis, afc123, bracelets123, ctrlaltdegen
NutterRutter: and tons more

pokerboth: because of you i have speakers on off

pokerboth: every 3 minutes you sit in

NutterRutter: im good at game starting

NutterRutter:




drNYC212: lol

drNYC212: anyone on ipoker run better?

FanaBunad: just stupid

NutterRutter: probably they do

NutterRutter: im 55k below ev since october

FanaBunad: ur ok nutter, but I really have lost alot of respect of you due to ur table blocking

NutterRutter: ok I know

FanaBunad: u block the seats u know "he" will take, so yeh u do

NutterRutter: I NEVER sit the last seat and stop a game happening

NutterRutter: only for Artpaul
drNYC212: lol
NutterRutter: otherwise I never take the last seat
drNYC212: its enough
FanaBunad: its a shame u do that

drNYC212: here is reason why all network hate you
NutterRutter: ok, respect it alot coming from you Fan

NutterRutter: I think theres worse than me

NutterRutter: or defintiely lots as bad

NutterRutter: I just play the most frequently

FanaBunad: im sure ur right, but ur decent player, so dont expect u to contribute to bad pr for poker

NutterRutter: ok Fan cheers
NutterRutter: youre the first person that has made me think about it

NutterRutter: everyone else just abuses me

FanaBunad: gl

ipoker / boyle poker down for anyone?

Yep, maintenance apparently

NutterRutter: im good at game starting

+1. Good job chirpy.

yeah lol. never seen him start a game

Yeah, I agree. I'm pretty confident GreXXHuXXX is a different player.


However, I also think drPhXXX, drnyXXXX, and poXXXXoth may be casXXX / XXXXlo.

They play the same stakes/games and their HU games are very similar. All 5 open ~63% of buttons, 40% defend and 15% 3b.

It seems unlikely someone would make that many SNs, but there are a lot of iPoker skins.

+1 for being fully behind the ipoker table blocking epidemic.
Sent some e-mails a few months ago to paddy power and have now sent the template one. They need to be stopped!