***The OFFICIAL 2015 MSNL Stars Regulars Thread*** - Page 6 - Micro Stakes Pot Limit and No Limit

Last edited by krolewicz; 02-04-2015 at 11:03 PM. Reason: its fair i guess. if 3rd player was to always take his right instead of yours then its prolly unnecessary

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02-04-2015 , 11:30 PM

#127

whatastinker

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any of you use stars helper instead of table ninja? considering switching but skeptical for security reasons

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02-05-2015 , 12:53 AM

#128

woolly

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Originally Posted by notankyou?

hi myself and other reg had a discussion on a 6max nl200 table, He was the first to sit in and when I joined he sat out, to wait for 3 handed+ wich is all good and fair, but then I left the table and cameback in the triangle formation (2/3) but I choose the +2 spot instead of -2 obviously he wasnt that happy and we start arguing a bit but still in a friendly way and my point was since Im willing and ready to play hu and he's not then I deserve to get the seat advantage while we wait for triangle formation

fair not fair, out of line? we seak your input on this

thank you

Dealer: Woollyyy posts big blind $2
Dealer: Dealing Hole Cards
no tank you?: easy game for the nit
Dealer: no tank you? folds

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02-05-2015 , 04:09 AM

#129

notankyou?

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wholly you are like a mix of yadadamen and ninja666 where you take everyone leaks

you are a nit like yada and a big station like ninja

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02-05-2015 , 04:23 AM

#130

TheDefiniteArticle

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So he folds too much and doesn't fold enough at the same time? Cool.

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02-05-2015 , 04:43 AM

#131

woolly

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no he means im value heavy but bluff too much

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02-05-2015 , 04:54 AM

#132

notankyou?

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or just doesnt bluff and calls down to much maybe ?

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02-05-2015 , 05:45 AM

#133

TimStone

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Originally Posted by whatastinker

any of you use stars helper instead of table ninja? considering switching but skeptical for security reasons

Developer takes out a 100 bucks out of ur account randomly when he needs for and u 3 russian regs can see ur hole cards but i avoid playing teh same stakes like them which works. Still better than to give teh ninja mafia any money.

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Originally Posted by notankyou?

wholly you are like a mix of yadadamen and ninja666 where you take everyone leaks

you are a nit like yada and a big station like ninja

Damn tis yada nit who has twice teh hourly compared to anybody poasting here

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02-05-2015 , 06:54 AM

#134

Ninja666

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Originally Posted by notankyou?

wholly you are like a mix of yadadamen and ninja666 where you take everyone leaks

you are a nit like yada and a big station like ninja

I encaurage you guys to spit on my face all my leaks!
Make me regret that I was born! Cmon, tell me everything what you think about my game!

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02-05-2015 , 11:03 AM

#135

Bonusito

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 98

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Originally Posted by whatastinker

any of you use stars helper instead of table ninja? considering switching but skeptical for security reasons

Stars Helper is very easy to use, better then Table Ninja.

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02-05-2015 , 11:16 AM

#136

PokerRon247

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I resisted upgrading to TN2 since it came out because I'd heard so many horror stories. When the update to PS7 broke TN1 last week I decided to trial TN2, and honestly I can't see what all the fuss is about. Other than a few teething troubles at the start it works almost flawlessly and I love the fact it works across different sites so I have it handling my tiling layout, timebank, default betsizing and hotkeys for 3 sites simultaneously.

Anybody who has experience of both - what's wrong with TN2, and why is Starshelper better?

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02-05-2015 , 01:29 PM

#137

notankyou?

banned

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Originally Posted by Ninja666

I encaurage you guys to spit on my face all my leaks!
Make me regret that I was born! Cmon, tell me everything what you think about my game!

was actually talking to wholly like you can see

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02-05-2015 , 07:59 PM

#138

Ninja666

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 784

I have chat banned myself on stars, so I will reply here:

""Boggart York: Ninja are u nazi?""
No I am not.
Are you?

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02-06-2015 , 01:53 AM

#139

TimStone

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Originally Posted by PokerRon247

There is no need to make such a program subscription based. There are more powerful and stable tools out there for less money if u play stars only. If u multisite its good though.

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02-06-2015 , 03:47 AM

#140

Calm Down

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Originally Posted by TimStone

any basis for these claims?

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02-06-2015 , 08:27 AM

#141

TimStone

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Originally Posted by Calm Down

any basis for these claims?

Joeingram discussed it indepth in his podcast with lex iirc

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02-06-2015 , 09:06 AM

#142

Calm Down

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is it speculation or proven?

what time are they talking about it? cba to listen to the entire thing

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02-06-2015 , 11:27 PM

#143

TimStone

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Cmon mate, u are around long enuff to not call every single one of my levels??!!!

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02-07-2015 , 04:09 AM

#144

Calm Down

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lol, gotta fall for one i guess

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02-07-2015 , 05:53 AM

#145

PokerRon247

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Originally Posted by TimStone

There is no need to make such a program subscription based.

Subscription makes sense to me for a product that has to be constantly updated and supported. I'd guess the main reason they even created TN2 was because everyone had bought TN1 for $50 or whatever 5 years ago and they were still having to constantly support and update it every time a site changed their layouts, fonts, images etc.

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02-08-2015 , 10:52 AM

#146

Dr.FatCat

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Yeah StarsHelper >> TN. Especially now that TN2 is taking the piss with a heavily priced subscription based model.

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02-09-2015 , 06:37 AM

#147

TonnaMunz

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,759

greed based, i like the idea that if PT or HEM ever tried to go monthly sub there would be a new competitor in there so fast

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02-09-2015 , 06:58 AM

#148

JonIrenicus

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It's not greed based, HM2 should be subscription based imo.
That way they could actually manage it better, update faster, I don't see how there is any controversy here->they need to keep monitoring and updating for different sites, different windows versions and all that is costly for them, they should make it subscription based.

We are greedy for expecting to pay less than 1 buyin for a lifetime use and update of a program that improves our winrate

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02-09-2015 , 07:11 AM

#149

TheDefiniteArticle

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The price/format of HM2/PT4 is obviously linked to market conditions. Considering their current pricing scheme, I'd assume that there are relatively low barriers to entry such that they can't justify significant increases in effective price without losing a significant portion of their demand.

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02-09-2015 , 07:28 AM

#150

PokerRon247

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Originally Posted by Dr.FatCat

Yeah StarsHelper >> TN.

Yes, but why? I keep hearing this but don't really hear many arguments for it other than the bugs that TN2 had on release that seem to have been ironed out now.

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Especially now that TN2 is taking the piss with a heavily priced subscription based model.

Agree with Jon above. Subscription makes far more sense, and although it seems expensive, that's only because we're used to what we've been paying - which given the amount of support and constant updates that these programs need to proved, was probably way too little in the first place.

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