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05-23-2015 , 10:26 PM

#426

Burnss

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Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,539

ye true. ponty edit my posts please.

Would everyone mind just sending stars a message to try get them to at least investigate or something?

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05-23-2015 , 10:46 PM

#427

pontylad

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I have no power in the misdtakes forum

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05-23-2015 , 10:55 PM

#428

pontylad

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Originally Posted by Mixgrill

My point is that they are mostly crushing because they have been running hot. Put him in a game with 5 other top 1k guys and he'd get murdered.

There's plenty of maniacs who used to crush but can't anymore.
Nanonoko, Romulaz etc...

Why doesn't Analog just play 5k all day if he is so good? Maybe his 20% 4bet strategy isn't that great...

And I think it's better to judge someone on thousands of hands played vs them than a sample of hands which doesn't indicate someone's true winrate.

I'm not saying he's not using anything, but I am saying that it's not giving him enough of an edge for us to fear him.

Also this is so so wrong and missing the point.

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05-23-2015 , 10:58 PM

#429

woolly

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Originally Posted by pontylad

I have no power in the misdtakes forum

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05-23-2015 , 11:18 PM

#430

dg4

Coach NLHE

Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,123

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Originally Posted by Mixgrill

Kalben does the exact same thing, and he is just as bad.
They just play a very exploitative and titling style.

I would not judge him much on results. Sir Donald is apparently the biggest 500 zoom winner at the moment, and he's not even top 20.
Kalben is winning, even though he should be at 200NL.

And then you have worldclass players who have been breakeven for three months because they are running badly.

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05-24-2015 , 12:34 AM

#431

Dr.FatCat

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Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,082

Yeah Analog and Kalben both equally suck, they have a combined wr of 4.5bb/100 over 1.5M hands at midstakes, with little table selection. However, I've played a few hands against them at tbh, they won a few flips vs me and their clearly on a massive life heater and should be playing 200nl because I'm better than them, they make such obvious mistakes like not playing the same strategy as me, which is clearly the best one.

They remind of that 3rd guy, redbaron, dude just sunruns the **** out of everyone.

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So they're bad because their style only works against the current competition they play against ? WTF, so what decides whether someone is good or bad ?

Last edited by Roger Mainfield; 05-26-2015 at 02:13 AM. Reason: deleted posted results

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05-24-2015 , 01:28 AM

#432

BatDoge

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Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 184

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Originally Posted by Jajajaja

False, everyone sucks unless Mixgrill explicitly says otherwise as he is all knowing. The problem with this is that he said Peter Jennings is "very good" at poker, so he kind of lost his credibility.

The way Peter Jennings wears his hat in his rio profile pic really upsets me

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05-24-2015 , 05:29 AM

#433

horse84

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Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,574

Wtf

Form a Skype Group for discussions like this.
Also not OK to post whotfr screens, imo

Sent from my Nexus 7 using 2+2 Forums

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05-24-2015 , 05:43 AM

#434

neomorf

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pls continue ^^ <4

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05-24-2015 , 07:33 AM

#435

itan

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Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 902

analog and all the crushers are just ahead from the curve.leave all the witch hunting and deal with it.

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05-24-2015 , 07:36 AM

#436

pokerpan1

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Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 451

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Originally Posted by Mixgrill

Kalben does the exact same thing, and he is just as bad.
They just play a very exploitative and titling style.

I would not judge him much on results. Sir Donald is apparently the biggest 500 zoom winner at the moment, and he's not even top 20.
Kalben is winning, even though he should be at 200NL.

And then you have worldclass players who have been breakeven for three months because they are running badly.

Just lol at saying Kalben or Analog are bad players... Using an exploitative style instead of a GTO style doesnt make you a worse player, actually probably up to NL600 exploiting is the best approach to the game. Playing exploitive also doesnt mean they could play a GTO stylish play when required... Def 2 of the biggest crushers at NL600 and not because of a heater.

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05-24-2015 , 07:55 AM

#437

Burnss

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Originally Posted by itan

analog and all the crushers are just ahead from the curve.leave all the witch hunting and deal with it.

still something fishy about him.

Glad im not the only one who thought mixgrill comments were ******ed. LOLmixgrill

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05-24-2015 , 12:39 PM

#438

jeanchris

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Now that we know ana is a bot, can we all agree now that iceman is a superuser?!?!

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05-24-2015 , 01:43 PM

#439

TonnaMunz

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,759

lol funny stuff in here

Spoiler:

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05-24-2015 , 05:08 PM

#440

kriket28

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Originally Posted by horse84

Also not OK to post whotfr screens, imo

+1 on that and not using full names

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05-24-2015 , 05:17 PM

#441

drambuiecola

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 181

The question is, Is TonnaMunza a certified crusher? His posting behavior makes it seem so,
but i think a lot of people would disagree..

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05-24-2015 , 07:15 PM

#442

TimStone

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Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 8,375

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Originally Posted by drambuiecola

The question is, Is TonnaMunza a certified crusher? His posting behavior makes it seem so,
but i think a lot of people would disagree..

Fish on heater imo. Upswing account.
Would get crushed in all regs lineups at 2k nl. Doesnt even know how gto is written.

Cliffs:
- he suqs

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05-24-2015 , 09:44 PM

#443

itan

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Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 902

i dont know abt TonnaMunz...
every ***** time i was falling for his expospoiler like a true fish.now im just cklikin a 5 to 10% based on forum texture.

Last edited by itan; 05-24-2015 at 09:49 PM. Reason: must be some kind of gto bot

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05-24-2015 , 10:47 PM

#444

pontylad

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Originally Posted by drambuiecola

The question is, Is TonnaMunza a certified crusher? His posting behavior makes it seem so,
but i think a lot of people would disagree..

What's your SN? You're always so salty on here, just wondering if your play is as rot as your posting.

Last edited by pontylad; 05-24-2015 at 10:55 PM.

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05-25-2015 , 01:31 AM

#445

walkingzed

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Being aggro, and having really strange betting lines are two different things. If you have played against any of these heads up bots, they play very strangely when viewed from human eyes. you can instantly feel that it seems different than any human you have played against. you can claim that this is just because these guys are playing GTO and that is how GTO looks but given the history of players who play like bots turning out to be bots, my money is on them being bots.

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05-25-2015 , 02:47 AM

#446

TonnaMunz

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,759

haha yea I am just a SNE hopeful rakeback rot reg

Amusing to me that people can thing these huge crushes are just on a heater

. Anal0g being a bot is much more possible but I think hes just a smart dude

Spoiler:

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05-25-2015 , 07:23 AM

#447

Ninja666

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 784

Dont be stupid guys, don't call names and do not allow people be aware what you think about them and also don't let others to pay additional attention to those guys too.

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05-25-2015 , 09:28 AM

#448

ishipkq

old hand

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,479

i don't understand the hate on kalben, he is pretty good.

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05-25-2015 , 09:45 AM

#449

Slugant

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 7,135

there def is something crazy about an@log,
he reacts within 1 seconds 100% of the time, even in very rare unusual spots
which is possible of course but does look very sketchy tbh,
its almost like those pokersnowie players altho when ranges gets capped vs an@log you can expect some very very odd things and big overbets

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05-25-2015 , 11:13 AM

#450

TimStone

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But if u r a botdeveloper wouldnt u include a random delay in ur actions. I mean if u are smart enuff to create something which destroys 600 ud assume u are smart enuff to randomize timing as well?

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