Maybe we should try giving them an incentive to fix the problem. If some rush regs raise 1-200$ by all chipping in something like 5-20$ each would a HM2 programmer be willing to work overtime to fix this problem?

That way it doesnt effect any of the other issues already in que ahead of this one.

Do you have a direct line with one of their programmers?

No I don't - I already offered to pay overtime though ( about 3 months ago) and he declined. No harm in messaging Fozzy again though on the HM2 forums.

hey guys. Is there any way to at least "half" fix that HUD bug, so I can have all players huds on table at least, no matter that the are on wrong position. most of time i just see only my hud

that hud-bug is rly annoying. sad to hear it will take so long till it gets fixed.. cant imagine that this would be hard to fix but well...

if they have other priorities we probably cant do that much as we rush200+400 regs are such a minority :/

at least its nice to hear im not lonely on rush 400 with that problem

Your much more likely to get it fixed quicker if everyone complains on the HM2 forum

Was pretty excited about this cash knockout promo ,i still think it's a great idea, but with the shallow stack games being part of it it kinda takes the fun out of it as it seems you need to mass tables these to have a chance of winning and their boring as hell to grind.

At least this is how it seems to be for the medium group.

Does seem strange that CAP is included but Adrenaline Rush. I know they are very different games but with respect to this promo they both give you a significant edge over people in regular games.

I don't know what the motives behind the promotion were - perhaps to try and get people to play multiple stake levels and formats?

I assume best strategy is to play as many game types, formats and in both short handed and full ring games where possible so you get to play with as many people as possible. a lot of people mostly just play one specific format so moving around lets you get a shot at all of those players.

This.

The Cash Knockout promotion says "with qualifying stake levels set at $0.02/$0.05 - $0.05/$0.10" for Low Leaderboard. So I have been multitabling Rush 0.02/0.05, only to see that I´m not able to keep pace with top leaderboard players no matter what I do.
No wonder. I have found out that the top 10 players are all mass tabling shallow stacks cash game with 0,80 buyin, which is 0,01/0,02. Based on the promotion rules this should not be included, but in reality, it is counted towards the leaderboard.
So what know? Should I continue to play according to the rules, or should I "cheat" as others? As there is no chance to get the same number of knockouts at Rush, even 6 tabling, like you can make on shallow stacks.

They are maximizing their EV within the rules of the promotion. The promotion does not seem to exclude short stack or CAP games only Adrenaline Rush and HU.

I certainly agree with you that short stack and CAP tables should be excluded from the promo but they aren't so lets avoid using the word cheat please.

'Play at all No Limit Hold'em and Pot Limit Omaha ring game tables counts towards this promotion, with the exception of Heads Up and Adrenaline Rush tables.'

The more people express their opinion about this the more likely that FTP will change the rules if they run the promotion again. You all know this thread gets read by Shyam at the very least so if you are unhappy with anything speak up, otherwise nothing will change.

I disagree. The Fulltilt page about the promotion directly states the following "The Cash Knockout Low Leaderboard has $15,000 on the line, with qualifying stake levels set at $0.02/$0.05 - $0.05/$0.10"
So how the 0,01/0,02 can be the qualifying stake level? The FT has specifially set the stake levels which will be included in the leaderboard. It doesn´t matter if it is full stack, shallow or CAP as long as the game lies within the specified stake levels, which 0,01/0,02 is obviously not.

Do you see what I mean? It is not about CAP, or Short Stack. If the Rules state
"qualifying stake levels set at $0.02/$0.05 - $0.05/$0.10"
then I demand all knockout points gained at different levels (such as 0.01/0.02 or even 0.15/0.30 etc.) to be cancelled and not counted to the leaderboard. This is a leaderboard bug. It has nothing to do with CAP or whatever format.
To get point in the board you need to play a cash game IN THE RANGE between NL5 and NL10. Simple as that.

Ah ok sorry - I see what you mean now.

I will ask Shyam to come and comment as I have no idea if they are being counted or not.

Hi,

Sorry about this, but I looked into it and the webpage was wrong about the $0.01/$0.02 level not being counted. It's being updated shortly (if it's not already updated). Definitely write to support if you feel like you've been put at a disadvantage in the promo because of that error.

I also hear you all about the Cap and Adrenaline Rush counting for this promo, and if we ever run it again we'll be sure to discuss ways to help that issue.

Where can I find how many spots are being paid out in this promo?
Sorry If I missed it somewhere..

Cashier>>>MyPromotions>>>>Cash Knockout

Select the appropriate leaderboard and it will display the current people who are getting paid and the respective prizes.

At the bottom of that page is a link to the Rules page of the promotion.

Whats the benefit of black card vip level? I just reached it, but just have the same diamond store available to me it seems.

You get to convert your FTP's straight to cash - you can choose to have it done automatically each week with your Edge Rewards or save them and convert at a time of your choosing by clicking the link in your cashier just above where your FTP total is located.

You also earn double FTP points when you opt- in to the edge leaderboards

More info here -

http://www.fulltilt.com/edge/black-card

top man again sparky!

watched the same thing lol

any other ftp/rush regs at the wpt in fallsview this week? if so pm me if you wanna meet up

Full Tilt MTT reg, transitioning to cash games in the next month. Hit me up if your interested in helping me get better at cash, I can def provide help with anyone who wants to work on their MTT game.

You guys use any AHK scripts, or are people using TN2? I can't get betpot to work how I want.

I just want a standard raise size from every position (although ideally I would have 3x UTG, 2.5x MP/CO, 2.2x BTN), ability to right click auto fold, and auto time bank.

I've got auto time bank working, but the betpot sizes incorrectly, on reg tables it sets postflop bet at 0, and on Rush it sets it at like 150% of pot.

Using the hyper simple theme, or whatever it's called.

This is ridiculous. How you can change the rules 3 days after the start? Of course I have been put in great disadvantage. You can make tons of knockouts at 0.01/0.02 level (40bb shallow) comparing to the higher limits. I was grinding whole day 6 tabling Rush just to see my opponents making twice or three times more knockout points!
This is not fair just to change the rules, instead of sticking to them. You are responsible for publishing your own rules correctly. Why should I be punished to follow the rules and avoid to cheat?

''Full Tilt reserves the right to postpone, modify or terminate the Cash Knockout promotion at any time.''

It's a bad situation for sure but I think Shyam has made the right call. The original intention of the promotion was that 1c/2c was to be included, the error was made on the website so to me it seems marginally better to adjust the rules to align with the original intention of the promotion and compensate people like you rather than to exclude those who have been playing 1c/2c.

Like Shyam stated email support and explain that you feel you have been adversely affected by this. Link this thread/Shyam's post if you want and if you feel you are not appropriately compensated then come back here and I'll bring it back up with Shyam.

I understand your frustration, if I was in your shoes I would feel the the same way.