***The OFFICIAL 2012 Stars Regulars Thread***

[Nice_2_Beat_U]

Originally Posted by DonkeyFishFight

I think that lowering the time so drastically will hurt the experience for a lot of regulars (and recreational players) that play the normal speed tables - namely, when it comes to post-flop play.

Most decisions that are taken at a table are pre-flop, thus these have to take the most time. People taking an unnecessarily large amount of time simply to fold pre-flop has to be annoying to a lot of players, much more so than taking time to act post-flop - where the decisions are naturally more complicated and require more time. So I think you should focus your attention on the time allowed pre-flop.

To be clear: Currently, at a normal speed table, you have how many seconds to act pre-flop? 35 seconds?

If that's the case then that's way too much, and where a large part of the problem has to lie. Cut that to 18 seconds instead, (or maybe 15 seconds in un-opened pots, 20 seconds when facing an open).

For post-flop, keep it at 25 minimum, preferably 30 seconds.

I think this is easily the best solution. You "save" tons of time, make the recreational players happier and also keep the regulars happy. Win, win, win.

+1111111

[Imrahil]

this just shows how cursed I am. al.most any clown can call me down with atc and win the pot



Table 'Lambda Velorum' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: wpr101 ($789.70 in chips)
Seat 2: matt20 ($983.85 in chips)
Seat 3: Banisher666 ($512.50 in chips)
Seat 4: oldjude ($523.42 in chips)
Seat 5: PrnceImrahil ($641.74 in chips)
Seat 6: Splitz106 ($1407.23 in chips)
matt20: posts small blind $2.50
Banisher666: posts big blind $5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PrnceImrahil [Jc Tc]
oldjude: folds
PrnceImrahil: raises $10 to $15
Splitz106: calls $15
wpr101: folds
matt20: calls $12.50
Banisher666: folds
*** FLOP *** [4c 5s 8c]
matt20: checks
PrnceImrahil: bets $47.50
Splitz106: calls $47.50
matt20: folds
*** TURN *** [4c 5s 8c] [9d]
PrnceImrahil: bets $120
Splitz106: calls $120
*** RIVER *** [4c 5s 8c 9d] [Ad]
PrnceImrahil: bets $459.24 and is all-in
Splitz106: calls $459.24
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PrnceImrahil: shows [Jc Tc] (high card Ace)
Splitz106: shows [2s As] (a pair of Aces)
Splitz106 collected $1300.68 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1303.48 | Rake $2.80
Board [4c 5s 8c 9d Ad]
Seat 1: wpr101 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

edit:

PokerStars Zoom Hand #84489890672: Hold'em No Limit ($2.50/$5.00) - 2012/08/09 11:35:26 AT [2012/08/09 10:35:26 ET]
Table 'Lambda Velorum' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Banisher666 ($1098.10 in chips)
Seat 2: Ace Zzang ($497.67 in chips)
Seat 3: PrnceImrahil ($1505.94 in chips)
Seat 4: T3G3S ($507.50 in chips)
Seat 5: losttoriver ($645.36 in chips)
Seat 6: oldjude ($1723.88 in chips)
Ace Zzang: posts small blind $2.50
PrnceImrahil: posts big blind $5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PrnceImrahil [Ac As]
T3G3S: folds
losttoriver: raises $7.50 to $12.50
oldjude: folds
Banisher666: folds
Ace Zzang: calls $10
PrnceImrahil: raises $62.50 to $75
losttoriver: folds
Ace Zzang: raises $422.67 to $497.67 and is all-in
PrnceImrahil: calls $422.67
*** FLOP *** [9d 5h 4h]
*** TURN *** [9d 5h 4h] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [9d 5h 4h 8d] [Jh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Ace Zzang: shows [5c 8c] (two pair, Eights and Fives)
PrnceImrahil: mucks hand
Ace Zzang collected $1005.04 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1007.84 | Rake $2.80
Board [9d 5h 4h 8d Jh]
Seat 1: Banisher666 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Ace Zzang (small blind) showed [5c 8c] and won ($1005.04) with two pair, Eights and Fives
Seat 3: PrnceImrahil (big blind) mucked [Ac As]
Seat 4: T3G3S folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: losttoriver folded before Flop
Seat 6: oldjude folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[DennisGPunkt]

Can't remember a single hand that i won against you.

[Imrahil]

Originally Posted by DennisGPunkt

Can't remember a single hand that i won against you.

u raise AT on txx bvb i get in with t9

[DennisGPunkt]

Originally Posted by Imrahil

u raise AT on txx bvb i get in with t9

oh okay, nevermind

[fees]

Originally Posted by klink10k

KING OF THE HILL HEADS UP PLZ!!!

this. The party lobby was outstanding until they shut it down. please god bring king of the hill hu.

[Stranzl]

+1 for KOTH

[Nice_2_Beat_U]

+1

[Klakteuh]

I checked the stars lobby for 5/10 HU the other day and there was idk, a million tables or something. Do all those guys actually make money ? I can't imagine there being enough fish to feed all those regs.

[jakedamus]

Originally Posted by MilkMan

The average rakeback grinder won't understand all the sensible points you're making here. They will just think, less time = less tables OMG no!!!!!!!

Stars needs to do whatever it can to make sure the complaints of the rec players are addressed. In fact for preflop decisions with no action into you the time should prob be cut to 10 seconds and adjusted upwards depending on action.

Originally Posted by Roger Mainfield

I like 18s, I cant imagine 1 tabling waiting 25s for people to fold pre.

+1

[peterrr]

hey, does anybody have any idea if any of the international pokersites work in spain? i know pokerstars doesn't but maybe entraction/unibet/ipoker or something? thanks

[esteban.]

did they already impelment the changes at 2/4+?

[ebffs]

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[krolewicz]

Just got to Barcelona. Any1 there want to grab a drink?

[Nice_2_Beat_U]

I got a weird bug or sth where it's impossible to join the waitlist on some PS tables, only using HM2 and TSC.