Also I remember grousegrind used to be a canadian 2+2er (it's a sweet hike in British Columbia) and its now a danish player. Did he use to be RubbaDucking? I remember that dude was crushing for ages at high stakes on Party.

I agree. It didn't sound like it was a final draft of what they were going to implement, so hopefully they will listen to our suggestions.

ahh, just read above me a bit.

loving his sizing on every street even though he lost the hand. it's gotta be a pretty brutal strategy to play against if he's properly adjusting to stack sizes.

is it just me or did anyone else think of the hu btn thread when they first saw him minraising 72o? lol. i was thinking the hand would have to get reposted if he won with it.

delete

for all the Game of Thrones fans,

you can watch season two online via HBO Go (http://www.hbogo.com)


it is available only for americans, and from what i heard the creation of the account is kinda complicated. as euro i am not able to watch it but using vpn i should be able. the account should be around 120euros (~150usd). Is there any american who is willing to get such account and we share it

thanks a lot! must watch the whole season asap, cant wait a week for each episode lol

^ huh? you can just get it on torrent download for free, can find it in seconds on isohunt, piratebay, bunch of places. episode 1 is out now. no need to pay

@jspill, all episodes are available @ hboGo!

Sit outting is worst than ever today...

anyone else having trouble opening tables? just says table loading and nothing happens most of the time I try and open a new table

same here

wonderful...

Had that happen to me once today, otherwise working fine for me.

happening to me also and can hardly open any tbls, what is wrong?

all as above plus once on tables they keep losing connection and some closing and some staying...

Yep... Connection issues on many tables

forced to go outside

just logged into party and my balance is WAAAAAAAY off anyone have this?

Edit just singed out and then in again and its fixed

Can't even imagine how hot I must have ran today to not have any software issues on Party.

FU party

sublime8700 = revlis87 from 2+2 = angribird_ / tableb1ocker (the scripter one not the other) going at it with kanu/sauce on the topics of sitting out, grimming, etc.

edit: just wanted to post this for everyone to read. nothing important, you may even feel dumber after reading it. this guy wins the trifecta for grimming, tableblocking, scripting all day long. definitely one of the biggest leeches on party and a contributor as to why the games are so bad.

copied from highstakes thread in NVG

Sublime8700: kanu
Kanu7: sup?
Sublime8700: i just want to understand your policy on sitting out
Dealer: Hand cancelled
Sublime8700: and I'm not trying to start something
Sublime8700: but you talk a lot about the games and people doing bad stuff to the games etc.
Sublime8700: but you constnatly do the snap sit out.. so what am I missing?
Kanu7: you want me to play the last bb every time?
Kanu7: if everyone else is gonna sitout on their next bb then i might as well sitout
Sublime8700: ok
Sublime8700: fair enough
Sublime8700: I jsut want you yo kno
Kanu7: and now i sit back in and will play if anyone wants to
Sublime8700: know
Sublime8700: that's what a lot of people have been doing for a long time
Sublime8700: it's not just a bunch of scum bags
Sublime8700: so when you ask me
Sublime8700: on another site
Sublime8700: for a blind back
Sublime8700: think about that
Kanu7: lol that's you?
Kanu7: that's different
Sublime8700: i'm totally cool with everyone acting in their own self interest
Kanu7: that's when i join a table and you just play your sb
Sublime8700: that's the easiest way to do things
Sublime8700: basically I hope you realize
Sublime8700: that it's honorable where you're coming from
Kanu7: ok for some reason you don't understand...
Kanu7: if the game is breaking, feel free to sitout next bb
Sublime8700: it seems to me
Sublime8700: you're picking and choosing
Sublime8700: what benefits you
Kanu7: if the game has broken on party and then 10 mins later i join the table, don't have autopost on and just play your sb
Sublime8700: so if it bothers you, you complain. but if staying in will hurt you, you don't do it.
Sublime8700: well, I guess I still disagree with you.
Kanu7: i'm not sure if you're being deliberately dense or you just don't get it...
Sublime8700: sorry, it's a bit hard to type with my AHK software.
Kanu7: here if i don't sitout you will sitout at your bb
Sublime8700: no, I'm not being dense
Kanu7: so it's just who sits out first
Kanu7: nobody loses out long term
Kanu7: if i join a table on party and you only play your sb if you get it first and you play both sb and bb when i get sb first, or you just sitout when i get sb first then that's not even or fair
Sublime8700: my point is
Sublime8700: of course it's not
Sauce123: sublime
Sauce123: i have a plan
Sublime8700: but unless everyone agrees not to do it
Sauce123: me and kanu will demonstrat this to u
Sublime8700: someone like me
Sublime8700: who obviously isn't trying to do that
Sublime8700: ends up getting screwed.
Sauce123: we will both sit in, then click 'sit out next bb'
Sauce123: after one sits out
Sauce123: we will start another hand
Sublime8700: that's funny sauce.
Sauce123: u can tally the results for total number of sb/bbs played
Sauce123: and then you can see if the result matches your predictions
Sublime8700: you know you can be sarcastic
Sauce123: ok ?
Sauce123: im not being sarcastic
Sublime8700: but I actually gave Kanu his 1st blind back
Kanu7: your position is ridiculous sublime
Sauce123: im trying to show u why you are wrong by demonstration rather than talk
Sauce123: because you wont listen
Sublime8700: my point is that people do it to me all day.
Sauce123: that isnt a point, thats a fact
Kanu7: if it's fair sublime, then it's fine, but if you just play your sb when i join your table, that's not fair
Kanu7: and i don't do the same to you
Kanu7: and i can't sit in on the table without you getting 1 sb and me not getting one, that's not fair
Sublime8700: so Kanu
Sublime8700: my point was simply
Sublime8700: this
Sublime8700: hang on
Sublime8700: will sit out for a second.
Sauce123: sublime are you being intellectually lazy or just trolling, i cant tell
Sauce123: if you are trolling you are the sickest ever and putting me on sick sick tilt
Sauce123: and i salute you
Sauce123: but otherwise cmon man
Sublime8700: ok, I'm sorry, I was not fully engaged in the discussion
Sublime8700: first of all sauce
Sublime8700: I'm not someone who cares to "troll" or do anything like that
Sublime8700: perhaps you disagree with me
Sauce123: ok good
Sublime8700: but my point was pretty simlpe
Sublime8700: I'm sitting and playing like 12-15 tables
Sublime8700: obviously that's a lot going on
Sublime8700: no part of my business plan includes
Sublime8700: taking people's blinds
Sublime8700: in unfair situations
Sublime8700: so, I know Kanu doesn't do that
Sublime8700: so I say to him
Sublime8700: after it accidentally happens
Sublime8700: and this is the only time anyone has ever asked for it back
Sublime8700: but I say OK fine, but I have too much going on to be worrying about this again
Sublime8700: so this is out of respect and to show good will but I simply expect other people to do it to me, and I will do it to other people. In the end, I'll probably lose because it's not intentional, but I have bigger fish to fry.
Kanu7: ok sublime, on party, when i join a table and you post your sb and i want to play you, what should i do?
Sublime8700: hey, look, I'm not saying it's a great situation for you
Sublime8700: I'm just saying
Sublime8700: uinderstand my perspective.
Sublime8700: and I don't think it's dense for me to say that I just can't be keeping score of who is doing what to who
Kanu7: i do understand it, and it's your responsibility to not grim me when i join your tables if you don't want to be a douche
Sublime8700: first of all, I was the original victim of real grimming
Sublime8700: which this is not
Sublime8700: but
Kanu7: am i supposed to sitout every time i join your table or leave because you're gonna grim me otherwise
Sublime8700: that's a seperate point
Sublime8700: what?
Sublime8700: I don't sit at your tables
Sublime8700: play a hand
Sublime8700: and leave
Sublime8700: you sit at my tables
Sublime8700: and do that...
Sublime8700: no?
Sublime8700: sorry
Sublime8700: you sit at my tables
Sublime8700: and that happens
Sublime8700: I'm not like seeking you out to do that...
Sauce123: yea, that's insane, you can spare a click in the interest of fairness
Kanu7: i know, but that's irrelevant
Sauce123: god, does anyone want to play poker ?
Sauce123: let's play 3 handed
Sublime8700: no thanks.
Kanu7: sublime, it's on you to uncheck your autopost
Kanu7: you can't just sit at the table all day with the intention to grim me when i sit
Kanu7: and think that is reasonable
Sublime8700: yeh, sorry, that's not my intention
Sublime8700: frankly, I dont even know who gets which blind firs
Sublime8700: if you really wanna know
Kanu7: well you may not set out to do it, but that is your intention, if i sit on your table, you will play your sb and then leave
Sublime8700: i don't pay any attention to it.
Kanu7: and you will do that every time
Sublime8700: yeah, as I said, I think the sitting out thing is pretty crappy, but I understand why you do it
Sublime8700: and I do the same, because everyone else does
Sublime8700: hopefully you can understand that I do what I do in the interest of simplicty, not to screw you
Sauce123: ok cool
Sauce123: i have a solution though
Kanu7: what sitting out thing is crappy?
Sauce123: at the end of each session you can just tally up how many ppl u grimmed and send it back
Sauce123: eazy peazy
Kanu7: me sitting out when everyone else is about to anyway so that i don't play the last bb every ingle time a table breaks?
Kanu7: you think that is crappy?
Sublime8700: how everyone sits out when the mark leaves.
Sublime8700: sauce
Sauce123: then while playing you are still free to 16 table or ponder the heavesn above or the moral law within or w/e
Sublime8700: how do I even figure that out
Sauce123: well
Sauce123: go in your Hold em manager
Sauce123: filter for hu
Sauce123: and count your sb vs your bb
Sauce123: then you can see who you grimmed
Sauce123: should only take a few moments of your time
Sublime8700: one sec
Sublime8700: i will tell you right now
Sublime8700: 4862 SB
Sublime8700: 4805 BB
Sublime8700: i dont even know what that means.
Sauce123: well
Sauce123: it means you have grimmed 57 times
Sublime8700: lol
Kanu7: 57 times more than people have grimmed you
Sublime8700: over the course of 500k hands
Sublime8700: means about 1/3 of a time per day
Sauce123: a pittance, i know, but nits like me with no poekr to play get excited about this sort of thing
Sublime8700: well, ok, I hear you guys
Sublime8700: I wish your tone was different, sauce, but whatever.
Kanu7: yes but you're grimming me a ton if you behave like that
Sauce123: we are having a lively debate
Sauce123: what's the problem ?
Sauce123: i'm not mad at you lol
Kanu7: basically sublime, you know that what you are doing is scummy, and there is no justification for doing it vs me
Sublime8700: Kanu
Kanu7: but you are more bothered about concentrating on your other games than on not being a scumbag
Kanu7: is what it boils down to
Kanu7: there's no point discussing it further
Sublime8700: how many players give you your blind back, explaino themselves, and apologize in advance bc they aren't going to spend energy dealing with it
Sublime8700: SINCE NOBODY ELSE DOES
Kanu7: most people don't grim me at all
Sublime8700: lol, wtf? This happens to me all day.
Sublime8700: its who can sit out faster
Kanu7: and some of those who accidentally do, give the bb back when i ask
Kanu7: and some scumbags don't ofc
Sublime8700: yeah
Sublime8700: I'm a scumbag,
Sublime8700: ok.
Kanu7: what do you mean it's who can sitout faster?
Kanu7: this is when i join your table
Dealer: A new game will start in 15 seconds
0Human0: yes u are , get the **** out off the table
Sublime8700: kanu, I will make my best effort to make sure it doesn't happen again.
Sublime8700: I hear you
0Human0: who th f are u to berate whit sauce and kanu , the two players that play forever whit anyone and start games etc
Kanu7: k ty
Kanu7: i appreciate it
Kanu7: i am just sitting on the tables trying to play and i don't want to be forced into joining the sitout fest by being grimmed every time i join a table
0Human0: kanu why waste time to speack nonsens whit this one
Kanu7: so I'm pleased that you will try not to do it
Sublime8700: I will do myt best to make sure it doesn't happen again. My point is simply that I have a lot going on, it's not intentional, but I don't want to sit with a scorecard about who does what to who
Kanu7: neither do I and i often ignore it, but that day i sat on lots of tables which you did it on
Sublime8700: basically, you should know
Sublime8700: that I'm very surprised.
Sublime8700: that I'm + SB in this
Sublime8700: bc it's by no means something I pay a moment of attention to
Sublime8700: so anyway, best of luck
Kanu7: k, u2
Sublime8700: if you sit at my tables, you could help the situation by sitting out
Kanu7: i do
Sublime8700: bc I'm not going to play you
Kanu7: and then i ask in chat if you want to play
Kanu7: and then i sit back in and you post again
Kanu7: and so i sitout again
Sublime8700: meh, I have chat blocked on my thing
Kanu7: and ask you again
Sublime8700: sry
Sublime8700: my fault ion that
Kanu7: and ask you on other tables to turn off autopost
Kanu7: and then sit in, and then you autopost again
Sublime8700: ok, back to work
Sublime8700: I hear you
Kanu7: k
Sublime8700: ciao sauce
Sauce123: cya


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can definitely agree with them that this guy is a scumbag on the tables. your obnoxious relentless script scares fish away constantly. it's a joke that people buy coaching from you when your best skillset is the script that gets you in all of the best games.

+1 to getting blatantly grimmed by revlis a couple times. I was sitting at an empty table, he sat down, posted his SB, stole my blind and then immediately left the table. I don't care if you're playing 20 tables at a time and can't be bothered, do what the **** needs to be done to make sure you aren't grimming people who are doing all the bitch work for you and starting tables.

I didn't read the whole convo, but the same guy grimmed me on the other table 5 minutes before this convo, i called him a scum and left, he joined my other table where i was playing to apologize saying he had autopost on. I think he also said he folded some decent hand, but he's probably lying. Scumbags stay scumbags.

i don't know how he can argue anything. its so painfully clear.

are the BB/SB not assigned randomly when there is a person at the table and a new person sits in?

i just logged in and refreshed my balance using the circular arrow and it said a clean $1000 :S had a mini heart attack. then when i tried to sit in it showed the correct balance and let my buyin to games normally.

restarted it and it seems to be fine now.

anyone had this problem before?