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01-05-2013 , 10:35 PM
I wonder if my line is okay here, villain at the time was fairly unknown (i think about20-30 hands, at that time fairly passive stats)

because i did not wanted to give free cards, i donkbet the flop (i assumed he would not cbet that flop, i saw him as a passive player)

turn is quite good for us, since we still have TPTK and picked up NFD, because he raised the flop, i assumed he would barrel again, which i can shove over to maximize my FE (especially given stacksize/pot)

Is my reasoning and line OK here, or did i made a few mistakes anywhere in the hand



    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15251401

    BTN: $7.50 (150 bb)
    Hero (SB): $8.97 (179.4 bb)
    BB: $8.73 (174.6 bb)
    UTG: $11.28 (225.6 bb)
    MP: $5.41 (108.2 bb)
    CO: $7.03 (140.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A 9
    3 folds, BTN raises to $0.15, Hero calls $0.13, BB folds

    Flop: ($0.35) 6 9 2 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.25, BTN raises to $0.60, Hero calls $0.35

    Turn: ($1.55) 7 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $1.20, Hero raises to $8.22 and is all-in, BTN calls $5.55 and is all-in

    River: ($15.05) 3 (2 players, 2 are all-in)




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    01-06-2013 , 05:51 AM
    deep i dont think your getting called by worse.

    call the turn, our hand is not strong enough to raise
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    01-06-2013 , 07:27 AM
    check/call is fine on the turn, once you make it so big he's only going in with something against which you have much less equity ie. a set as in this case. turned NFDs are misleading imho if you already have a pair or whatnot, cos your sd equity of making a flush with one card to come is minimal and in the event your opponent calls it's always with something crushing. get out of the habit of shoving over turns when you pick up NFDs purely because of the added sd equity, you need strong reasons besides relating to villain's range, playing style and board texture. if that makes sense (basically you're hoping for a fold cos you ain't hitting that spade very often at all and if he continues it's with a hand that thumps you).

    you might want to think about x/r on the flop too in this spot.
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    01-06-2013 , 07:02 PM
    Thanks for the replies guys, it makes sense to me what you are saying

    Much appreciated!
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    01-06-2013 , 07:35 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hainesy_2KT
    check/call is fine on the turn, once you make it so big he's only going in with something against which you have much less equity ie. a set as in this case. turned NFDs are misleading imho if you already have a pair or whatnot, cos your sd equity of making a flush with one card to come is minimal and in the event your opponent calls it's always with something crushing. get out of the habit of shoving over turns when you pick up NFDs purely because of the added sd equity, you need strong reasons besides relating to villain's range, playing style and board texture. if that makes sense (basically you're hoping for a fold cos you ain't hitting that spade very often at all and if he continues it's with a hand that thumps you).

    you might want to think about x/r on the flop too in this spot.
    Why would you x/r the flop instead of donkbet here?
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    01-06-2013 , 07:51 PM
    I think (as it was not directed to me) That we can xr flop, Because we have TPTK and people dont fold enough on nl5 (so xr is for value)

    The reason i donkbet this flop, was because of low samplesize (did not have accurate cbet stats on him) and i did not expect him to cbet on this board a lot (also there are a lot of bad cards to come for me, so if i take it down on the flop, thats ok for me)

    If i can assume he would be cbetting here, my standard line would also be to xr flop

    This comes to mind though, how do people think about 3b flop?(almost readless)
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