***The OFFICIAL 2012 Microgaming Regulars Thread***

[randomas]

http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/view.php/id/4398273

well at least i know hes not a bot,he actually said OH WOW after this

[Gerasis]

Did receive a cashout from Dbet, so it seems that room doesn't have any liquidity problems like other rooms that were hit at June 1st

[The72o]

Yeah, me too.
It took only 2 hours to cashout from Dbet

[torontoooo]

Without sounding like a douchebag, (maybe he is a v nice person irl idk) , but can anyone please tell me how the **** VO2max is rolled with how insanely bad and technically atrocious he plays, or am I missing something here? The guy can't lose!

[UnderCover_Pro]

Originally Posted by torontoooo

Without sounding like a douchebag, (maybe he is a v nice person irl idk) , but can anyone please tell me how the **** VO2max is rolled with how insanely bad and technically atrocious he plays, or am I missing something here? The guy can't lose!

A few good 100k plus years a while ago has played as high as 50/100.

[oldlove]

VO2max actually started on 100 NL a few months back and has grinded his way up. .
I have played A LOT with him the last few months at 100 and 200 nl.

[UnderCover_Pro]

Originally Posted by oldlove

VO2max actually started on 100 NL a few months back and has grinded his way up. .
I have played A LOT with him the last few months at 100 and 200 nl.

This Pro will never lie, tell storys, and only bluffs at the table.

Vo2 had a break from MG and returned at low mid stakes.
There are a few players left from the old ladbrokes/ Unibet MG lodden days
before network merges.Dvokinfinity is one.
100% this is correct he was one of the biggest winners on network around 2008/9.And was playing 50/100.

[KeysToTheCity]

Hey guys here's an article I wrote further explaining the situation with 5050 and Microgaming. Hopefully it gives you an idea about the politics going on behind the scenes:

http://www.igaming411.com/2012/06/25...and-5050poker/

[Crazywhacko]

http://www.lga.org.mt/lga/content.aspx?id=328106 ...

[B1ingB1angB1aow]

The last published accounts for 5050 Poker Holding AB show 1704 players who have played at least once in the last 3 months, with player balances of SEK 5.7m ($810k USD). The company’s Current Assets are listed at over SEK 7m. However, during liquidation, players rank no higher than other creditors, so if the company liquidates and the assets and liabilities do not match, then players may not get a proportion of their money back.

Article

[ben78]

This network is just a joke. They changed their politic at the last time of the month as if there was only few rooms which offered illegal rb. But actually, there was rakeback on all rooms and way more than 30%. If Unibet and Ladbrokes want to be alone why they don't just leave microgaming or ask them directly to kick the small skins out instead of being hypocrite.
The trend isn't good for microgaming, they're loosing players which is normal, cause how can we trust them now?

[Sciolist]

I don't think a site should complain if it broke network rules and got punished.

I also don't think that every skin offers > 30% rakeback. I guess it's POSSIBLE that some affiliates offer rakeback that they aren't allowed to without the site's knowledge, but that isn't the same thing.

If Ladbrokes and Unibet left Microgaming there'd be no recreational players left on it.

[ben78]

A rule that wasn't respected by all rooms on prima and it's only the small ones which are punished. To have more than 30% rb you needed an affiliate. It wasn't some affiliates, trust me.

I would think the contrary, they would have more recreational players. Grinders go on smaller rooms to have better deals, bad players join bigger sites because they trust them and it's the only site they know in the network.

To put anonymous table, then, mostly turbo tables and finally zoom poker, it's definitely to get more recreational players. Now, they get rid of the smaller skins to avoid better deals than what Ladbrokes and Unibet offer, they make sure everybody goes on their site. They will lose regs it's sure cause I don't see how they could stay on this site now that the VIP program is so low. I think they want to improve the ratio recreational player/reg.

[Sciolist]

Originally Posted by ben78

A rule that wasn't respected by all rooms on prima and it's only the small ones which are punished. To have more than 30% rb you needed an affiliate. It wasn't some affiliates, trust me

The rule IS respected by other operators on Microgaming. If an affiliate does something without that operator's knowledge that's another matter. But if one site has 1 player on a dodgy deal and another has 50, you can see the difference.

Originally Posted by ben78

I would think the contrary, they would have more recreational players. Grinders go on smaller rooms to have better deals, bad players join bigger sites because they trust them and it's the only site they know in the network

You think that if Ladbrokes & Unibet left Microgaming, Microgaming would have more recreational players? I can only assume you've misread something.

Good players go where recreational players go. Do you think it's fair that three operators (I'd include Nordicbet too to some extent) spend all the money bringing in new players?

[ben78]

I was talking about Ladbrokes and Unibet prospective, of course Microgaming would disapear without them and that's why those two sites have the control of the network policy. Ladbrokes and Unibet would have more recreational players without the small sites, it's what I meant.

Good players take into consideration playerpool/deal/software. They are part of the equation as well because it's thanks to them that the site makes huge profit. Ok without bad players there wouldn't be game, so it's normal for the site to attract new players.

So it would mean all big rooms on microgaming were very very naive. Every affiliates proposed the same deals on every microgaming rooms but they wouldn't be aware of it? Deals were so easy to get that I can't believe the rooms weren't aware of it.
To me, it seems that the rule note respected is just a damn excuse to get rid of small rooms, get more control on the network and reduce the amount of good players. What I just regret is how it was done, so quickly without clarity.