THE OFFICIAL 2009 Ongame Regulars Thread

[homeboy604]

Originally Posted by Cooper

If you really have 3bb+ over 100k+ hands above 400NL, you would rank in the top 10 players cross all sites according to Tableratings.

ORLY?

this was after a recent 10k downswong.

[lnternet]

Originally Posted by Mossberg

i thought those ev programs dont calculate non-sd winnings properly at ongame? when i've checked, my red line goes down, and I have friends who have made alot of money complain about the same thing.

HM works properly, pokerEV didn't (doesn't?)


what's 100k hands guys, it's not a sample that comes close to your winrate. Sure if you're above 3ptbb you likely don't suck, but not much more to say really.

[gorlom]

Originally Posted by Mossberg

i thought those ev programs dont calculate non-sd winnings properly at ongame?

mh, and why is that?

[homeboy604]

Originally Posted by lnternet

HM works properly, pokerEV didn't (doesn't?)


what's 100k hands guys, it's not a sample that comes close to your winrate. Sure if you're above 3ptbb you likely don't suck, but not much more to say really.

it is possible to go on 100k hand heaters. i think my longest breakeven stretch was somewhere between 40k-50k hands.

[Shizzle12345]

Originally Posted by homeboy604

it is possible to go on 100k hand heaters. i think my longest breakeven stretch was somewhere between 40k-50k hands.

consider yourself lucky then, Im 2.8ptbb the last 230k hands, and im like 60bi below expectation in that stretch.

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Oh hey guys, does anyone know of any regulars that are running way below expectation? Maybe about 60bi or so? Because I am 60bi over expectation this year and I'd like to give it back to the rightful owner.

[lubenica47]

loool

[homeboy604]

Originally Posted by Shizzle12345

consider yourself lucky then, Im 2.8ptbb the last 230k hands, and im like 60bi below expectation in that stretch.

i think not tilting hardly ever and always playing in good games helps.

[smellmuth]

Originally Posted by gorlom

is someone having positive non sd winnings at ongame 2/4 - 5/10 over a large sample and is a good winner? damn, I hate myself, when looking at it. maybe Im just a weaknitfish. bleh.

its because no one folds ever.

[CyaET]

I was winning non sd at nl400 but it was because I was making a looooooooot of stupid calls

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Originally Posted by CyaET

I was winning non sd at nl400 but it was because I was making a looooooooot of stupid calls

What do bad calls have to do with non SD winnings?

[CyaET]

instead of folding and loose non showdown, when you do bad calls it's your showdown winning that goes down

[lnternet]

Originally Posted by CyaET

instead of folding and loose non showdown, when you do bad calls it's your showdown winning that goes down

it's funny, everyone just tries to be cool instead of trying to understand what nonSD winnings actually mean.

i think not tilting hardly ever and always playing in good games helps.

yeah youre better than av from what I know. Still, 100k break even have to be expected with some reasonable likelihood even for a true 3ptbb winner. I'd guess between 2 and 10%, meaning once every 1-5m hands. I doubt you have even played 1m hands lifetime though (I for one havent)

[MATT111]

Ssrs question: Are there any suspicions out there concerning superusers on Tower/ongame?
I play there very infrequently but every time I do there`s a player that does VERY strange things att and goes out winning. I have over 1M hands of MSNL+ under my belt and I have a feeling sth is wrong each time I play on Tower (and pretty much only there).
One of today`s examples (villain left the game winning):


$2000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, April 03, 11:21:32 ET 2009
Table Labe (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: SpadeNeuterU ( $1180.00 USD )
Seat 2: Beachjohan ( $1760.00 USD )
Seat 8: patevra ( $5301.40 USD )
Seat 9: Hero ( $3196.00 USD )
Seat 10: VonRetez ( $4743.00 USD )
Beachjohan posts small blind [$10.00 USD].
patevra posts big blind [$20.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 8s 7d ]
Hero raises [$70.00 USD]
VonRetez folds
SpadeNeuterU folds
Beachjohan folds
patevra calls [$50.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5d, As, Kh ]
patevra checks
Hero bets [$120.00 USD]
patevra calls [$120.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2d ]
patevra checks
Hero bets [$290.00 USD]
patevra calls [$290.00 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ Ks ]
patevra checks
Hero checks
patevra shows [Qs, 3s ]
patevra wins $967.00 USD from main pot

[CyaET]

@internet : I don't see where people try to be cool , it seems pretty easy to understand that non showdown winnings are money that you won / loose in the pots that didn't go to showdon and showdown winnings are the winnings of pots that went to showdown , I hope everybody know this