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12-20-2007, 11:11 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Oct 2005
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***Official 2007 Reflections/2008 Goals Thread***
The extreme ballas, I earn/lose 100K in a day guys at HSNL have it and SSNL nitties have it. We should too.
Post your graphs/achievements in 2007. What are you expecting for 2008? Move up, make more moniez, win WSOP, errr?
My story for 2007, yep it makes me proud to get more views. It's been an amazing ride, and hopefully 2008 will be better.
Mod note: official **** thread is too crowded. Hope this is not infringing on your LC thresholds.
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12-20-2007, 03:25 PM
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Iceman
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Miles away
Posts: 7,994
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Re: ***Official 2007 Reflections/2008 Goals Thread***
Achievements:
-Signed up at 2+2 (majorbrag  )
-turned 2k into 4k from January to November (beat^^) and from 4k to 20k since november
-moved up to where they respect my raises (from NL50 shortstack to NL400/600
bigstack)
-bought christmas presents from the money i earned playing poker
-improved my game significantly.
This is my graph since the beginning of november
Goals for 2008:
-improve my game even more because its still far from where i want it to be, clear out
my leaks
-finish school
-earn over 30k playing poker
-move up to at least NL1k
Last edited by coldi; 12-20-2007 at 03:32 PM.
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12-20-2007, 05:03 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: London
Posts: 5,293
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Re: ***Official 2007 Reflections/2008 Goals Thread***
aight, pasted from the mtt thread...
2007 was a helluva a ride. I started the year playing 2/4 and grinding donkaments but aggressively moved up and was playing 5/10 in february or so. March was breakeven with the crazy variance of moving up into higher, tougher games. Finally in april I made 60k at 5/10 and my roll moved into the 6 figure region. Throw in my mtt score in may and that was a good two months. Somewhere after that in june I decided I was gonna move up to 10/20 and so began the cycle of hear wrenching variance and tilt induced by the sheer amount of money. Somewhere here I decided I was going to drop out of school and travel for the year and possibly longer. It wasn't until august that I started to win again and I've been chugging away slowly since then.
All in all, this has been a ridiculous year with a lot of time spent grinding and I've improved an amazing amount of times over and moved up through the limits very fast. However, with that have come sacrifices. I've gained weight and spent copious amounts of time to myself, grinding and staring at a computer screen. All told, I'm up somewhere north of 500k (not sure how much north because of bad records and stuff and I don't wanna think about how much I spent).
As for 2008, i wanna start the year off right, skiing and getting in lots of exercise and getting in shape. Learning some french and getting my investments together. Once that happens I wanna get my heads up game in check and begin taking more aggressive shots with my roll, while putting money away as often as possible. I'm hoping to make the transition into the 25/50 and the 50/100 games (and beyond?) by the years end and hopefully clear 7 figures on the year. I'd like to play some more live donkaments and a live score is always up on the list.
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12-20-2007, 05:15 PM
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CHOO CHOO
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: CHOO CHOO
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Re: ***Official 2007 Reflections/2008 Goals Thread***
January and February were very blah. I was playing 1/2 FR but really not enjoying poker, had less emotional control than john kane,etc.
March was not a real profitable month $$ wise, but the amount of work I put into my "game" was vvv valuable. Probably spent like 60 hours studying this month.
April-June was really insane, moved from 1/2 to taking shots at 10/20. Also had my 2 biggest months ever in here.
July/August were solid grind months during the summer.
September-Dec has been not so much fun, running bad, etc.
For 2008 i'd like to get more comfortable w/ 10/20. part of the prob with moving past 5/10 is games are way less available, which makes getting a good sample size vv hard. Hopefully I can tough through the swongs.
Also, I'd like to spend more time working on my game, I put that off wayy too much.
EDIT: I'd like to say I want to reach the 500k VPP milestone, but I hope to play more on FTP so maybe just shooting for 300k is better.
I'm sure MatthewRyan or MDMA will find a way to flame me while i'm trying to contribute, grats guys.
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12-20-2007, 05:24 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Osi Ukin'-yora
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Re: ***Official 2007 Reflections/2008 Goals Thread***
2007 -
Tried to quit poker, unsuccessfully - then came back and played awful/played above roll/lost $1k prop to vanessa. lately have been stomping. my roll is back to where i always wanted it to be, and I've never had ambitions of playing super-high. Unless games get to a pre-UIGEA level, I can't see myself sitting in a 10/20 game even though I am currently rolled for it.
2008 -
Hopefully have more positive things in my life besides poker. This game cannot be your life - all of us have the ability to do so much more, poker gives a person the time to go out and be anything, but too often that 'anything' is simply getting better at poker. I intend to take most of January off to get my head straight.
out of respect to linuxrocks, I will not be trolling Imsa's post above.
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12-20-2007, 05:33 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,732
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Re: ***Official 2007 Reflections/2008 Goals Thread***
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Originally Posted by ImsaKidd
January and February were very blah. I was playing 1/2 FR but really not enjoying poker, had less emotional control than john kane,etc.
March was not a real profitable month $$ wise, but the amount of work I put into my "game" was vvv valuable. Probably spent like 60 hours studying this month.
April-June was really insane, moved from 1/2 to taking shots at 10/20. Also had my 2 biggest months ever in here.
July/August were solid grind months during the summer.
September-Dec has been not so much fun, running bad, etc.
For 2008 i'd like to get more comfortable w/ 10/20. part of the prob with moving past 5/10 is games are way less available, which makes getting a good sample size vv hard. Hopefully I can tough through the swongs.
Also, I'd like to spend more time working on my game, I put that off wayy too much.
EDIT: I'd like to say I want to reach the 500k VPP milestone, but I hope to play more on FTP so maybe just shooting for 300k is better.
I'm sure MatthewRyan or MDMA will find a way to flame me while i'm trying to contribute, grats guys.
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Just curious, what do you work on when you are studying the game? You are talking about short-stacking strategy right. Do you work on different people's ranges, table conditions, scenarios etc.? Haven't you nailed it down completely yet?
If you meant, working on a standard full-stacked games, never mind.
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12-20-2007, 05:37 PM
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adept
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: hated and underrated
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Re: ***Official 2007 Reflections/2008 Goals Thread***
Imsa,
Did you shortstack for all of 2007? Any plans for fullstacking during 2008?
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12-20-2007, 05:43 PM
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CHOO CHOO
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: CHOO CHOO
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Re: ***Official 2007 Reflections/2008 Goals Thread***
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Originally Posted by thejerkface
Imsa,
Did you shortstack for all of 2007? Any plans for fullstacking during 2008?
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I made a little over 1k in 25k hands of 100nl and 200nl 100bb. I was obv not too good.
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Just curious, what do you work on when you are studying the game? You are talking about short-stacking strategy right. Do you work on different people's ranges, table conditions, scenarios etc.? Haven't you nailed it down completely yet?
If you meant, working on a standard full-stacked games, never mind.
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Yeah basically working on all that stuff. I won't go into it too in depth, but little changes make a big difference in ranges.
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12-20-2007, 05:48 PM
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veteran
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,079
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Re: ***Official 2007 Reflections/2008 Goals Thread***
Linusrocks: He will not explain what he is working on, simply because he doesn't want to give any ideas of how "learn" shortstacking. He will also not give you any graphs of his actual results, neither will he tell you anything that has any monetary value to you. He wants to be your friend though, and he wants to be part of "the 2p2 community" (lol) and befriend lots of players.
I can understand he refuses to teach other people strategy. I can understand that he shortstacks. I can understand that he has no reason to tell anyone anything that might be of actual worth to them.
I cannot understand why he wants to be a part of a community that as a whole rejects shortstacks simply because they ruin the games. I cannot understand that he refuses to actual give away his RESULTS. I cannot understand that he does not instead just simply stay on his own/with other shortstacks and just gives up on 2p2.
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12-20-2007, 06:06 PM
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veteran
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,740
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Re: ***Official 2007 Reflections/2008 Goals Thread***
Started 2007 playing solely 2/4. Played a lot of it, every single month, but through the course of this year, played as high as 50/100. I am comfortable playing up to 25/50 now, though I don't know if my mentality is right for it. I ended the year as probably the biggest winner on stars 2/4 and I was in the black on 5/10 by a decent amount. lost about 45k through my random shots at higher limits, but I think I'll live. My initial goal, for jan. 1 2008, was to not play 2/4 again and just stick to 5/10 and 10/20. Then I realized that I beat 2/4 for more than I could beat those for at the moment, and I just had a miserable week of high stakes so I want to grind for a little more. My uncle watched me play 25/50 and told me i'm perfectly capable of beating those stakes, but the games are the toughest they have ever been at this juncture. His advice to me was to keep building my bankroll through consistent grinding and wait until online poker is legalized in the united states so that there will be an influx of rich fishies. All told, I think I made around 300k this year, but spent a ridiculous amount as well.
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12-20-2007, 06:15 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 1,516
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Re: ***Official 2007 Reflections/2008 Goals Thread***
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Originally Posted by MDMA
Linusrocks: He will not explain what he is working on, simply because he doesn't want to give any ideas of how "learn" shortstacking. He will also not give you any graphs of his actual results, neither will he tell you anything that has any monetary value to you. He wants to be your friend though, and he wants to be part of "the 2p2 community" (lol) and befriend lots of players.
I can understand he refuses to teach other people strategy. I can understand that he shortstacks. I can understand that he has no reason to tell anyone anything that might be of actual worth to them.
I cannot understand why he wants to be a part of a community that as a whole rejects shortstacks simply because they ruin the games. I cannot understand that he refuses to actual give away his RESULTS. I cannot understand that he does not instead just simply stay on his own/with other shortstacks and just gives up on 2p2.
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QFT.
Anyway, I was waiting to post my graph in the BBV thread at the end of the year, but now that I'm pretty much done with poker for 2007 I guess I can put it up now. I'm somewhat disappointed that I didn't make a little more due to the huge downswing near the end, but 500k was my goal at the beginning of the year so I guess I'll take it now.
I started playing at 25nl with around $500 to my name in October of last year, ran very well at SSNL/moved up aggressively and had built that up to 5-figures or so and playing 3/6 by the start of 2007. The first six months weren't great; I was still in school (hence the lack of hands) and played badly, as well as having a pretty terrible run of luck during April and May. Also had by far my largest $-downswing last month, but with 25/50 being my main game now I guess I'll just have to get used to that.
As for 2008, I'd like to topple the mighty 300k-hand mark, start playing in the good nosebleed games and make at least a big fat milly!
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12-20-2007, 06:20 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: getting energy from my inner G
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Re: ***Official 2007 Reflections/2008 Goals Thread***
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Originally Posted by ImsaKidd
I'm sure MatthewRyan or MDMA will find a way to flame me while i'm trying to contribute, grats guys.
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first of all; lol contribute. second, don't think because these guys are the most vocal that the rest of msnl doesn't despise you. go to bbv where your idiocy and train noises are tolerated.
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12-20-2007, 06:22 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,732
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Re: ***Official 2007 Reflections/2008 Goals Thread***
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Originally Posted by MDMA
Linusrocks: He will not explain what he is working on, simply because he doesn't want to give any ideas of how "learn" shortstacking. He will also not give you any graphs of his actual results, neither will he tell you anything that has any monetary value to you. He wants to be your friend though, and he wants to be part of "the 2p2 community" (lol) and befriend lots of players.
I can understand he refuses to teach other people strategy. I can understand that he shortstacks. I can understand that he has no reason to tell anyone anything that might be of actual worth to them.
I cannot understand why he wants to be a part of a community that as a whole rejects shortstacks simply because they ruin the games. I cannot understand that he refuses to actual give away his RESULTS. I cannot understand that he does not instead just simply stay on his own/with other shortstacks and just gives up on 2p2.
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Another QFT. Seriously, he doesn't want to contribute and doesn't want to show results ever, and needs sympathy for his down swings.
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12-20-2007, 06:27 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: still the same,just got more fierce
Posts: 4,130
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Re: ***Official 2007 Reflections/2008 Goals Thread***
started playing cash in June at uNL with $600 and moved up pretty quickly and started at 2/4 in september. Played my standard game and built my roll until about 6 weeks ago when i decided to switch to a mega ballin high wwsf kotkis style when i got to 5/10.
Have run pretty bad since (and back at 2/4-3/6) but i am very happy with my play in the most part.
here's my MSNL career so far
you can pretty much see on the graph where i changed style and where my w$wsf went from 45 to like 51-52 now.
Want to get properly rolled for 5/10 over the next few weeks and hope to be at HSNL by the summertime or if not then then definitely by the end of 2008.
basically want to do the same sort of thing christophers has done ^^^, that's ****ing sick
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12-20-2007, 06:32 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,621
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Re: ***Official 2007 Reflections/2008 Goals Thread***
07 was my first full year playing for a living, and I think it went pretty well. My game improved a ton, I was playing .50/1 to begin the year and by the end of July I had built a 60k bankroll, but I had a horrendus August, dropped 20k including a -18k day playing 5/10 HU.
I always thought it was impossible to have a losing month if you were good, but now I know from first hand experience losing months are apart of poker.
September started off great, I took 2nd in the nightly 55k on FT for 11k then I had a 5k live session and I was up about 17k in the first week of the month, but I lost at least 10k combined live on online the rest of the month. Then October and November I barely played cash and played about 5-10 tournies a week and went out too much and spent a bunch of cash. Because of this my roll went from 60k at the end of July down to about 14k to start December.
This month has been great so far, I won the 55k last night for a 19k score and I'm up about 12 in cash, and I'm playing a ton which is a great sign. I'm on pace for a 70k hands which I haven't done since April, and my game is at an all-time best.
That's the best part of this year, I can feel that my game is constantly improving, and because of that despite feeling that I'm pretty good I know there is a ton of room for improvement which is very encouraging.
For 08 I'm hoping to be at least having the roll to take shots at 25/50 by May and having the roll to play 50/100 full time. I also plan on getting my own place and a car by March. And I want to spend a month in Vegas during the WSOP play a few events but mainly take advantage of the super soft cash games.
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