Yeah, my mistake, I have no proof about that

Anyway, some say this player would defeat nl100zoom for around 20 but the majority say it would be around 12.
Interesting stuff.

You do realize that if a 12bb/100 on a real sample DID exist the regulars itt would know about him (that sort of crush doesnt just slide under the rug) they wouldnt try to bend a name out of you. The only names you got, is on lol samples and they are hoping you take the bait and gets a counterproof of their whole sample.

Saw a impressive graph the other day. 178k winnings over a 8,78bb/100 winrate at stars zoom(and regular). I mean that's impressive but he is running hot and bumhunt pretty excessively.

And for the record. The reverse do NOT hold true. If someone on 100z who isnt a regular at bigger stakes crush it for 20bb/100 it does not mean that he'd crush 500z for 12bb/100 or 10bb/100 or 5bb/100.

Id go as far as saying its not even a lock if he is a winning player on 500z unadjusted. Certain leaks and abysmal play may work or not being punished as hard, some moronic stuff may even net a small win at 100z because of opponents leaks being so big. My two cents obv.

edit; 20bb/100 is such a huge number that he most certainly DOES NOT play very optimal for higher stakes, id say its pretty likely he is being fairly extreme in some way, as an example overly agressive as I find the possibility of regs overfolding being most likely. Rake is to big of an issue for any fantastic numbers beyond 12bb/100 I think.

2digits Winrate in a regheavy environment is sign of a thorough specification and thus exploitation of tendencies for this given playerpool. If such a specialist hops into another (much fishier) pool its not given that he just adds x-amount to his WR. It needs new analysis and adjustments . And then there is rake.

Not sure if this thought experiment is valuable.. a nl500 crusher plays nl100 only when hes drunk obv.

There are people beating NL500 Zoom for 12bb/100? They must have god-like poker skills.

I'm unsure whether it's been said or not, but beating 500z for 12bb/100 would be quite an accomplishment !!!

This isn't true. Highest wr over 750k hands is around 6bb.

$120,000 / $5 = 24,000 bb
400,000 / 100 = 4,000 100h

24,000 bb/ 4,000 100h = 6 bb/100h

to boot his aiev on that graph is 5 bb/100

wtf dude get your life together

There's 12b/100 crushers out there though, not to mention otb has to be able to sustain that 10bb/100 wr because he was very confident when he started the challenge !

thatljs a good point. otb red(baron) has the gusto ofa lion, we would all be silly billies if we 4 got that !!

mods pls close this thred the issue at hand is finaly resolved and wee may all die in peace

is this a real life?

lol

Lol

YNWA!

So the way to prove that someone can crush the field for a winrate above 5 is to post a link to a graph of someone winning at 5 (EV)? No money in proof, everyone's solid.

fantastic!

NL1k zoom 24bb/100

Do you believe in magic Roy?