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03-02-2012 , 05:46 PM
BTN: $839.80 - VPIP: 32, PFR: 18, 3B: 5, AF: 2.8, Hands: 2035
SB: $408.89 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 8, AF: 4.0, Hands: 9730
BB: $889.28 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 14, 3B: 6, AF: 3.7, Hands: 8844
UTG: $115.45 - VPIP: 52, PFR: 32, 3B: 20, AF: 2.2, Hands: 368
Hero (MP): $409.47 -
CO: $400.00 - VPIP: 32, PFR: 18, 3B: 5, AF: 2.8, Hands: 2035

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is MP with 8 A
UTG calls $4, Hero raises to $16, 3 folds, BB calls $12, UTG calls $12

Flop: ($50.00) 5 9 K (3 players)
BB bets $38.00, UTG folds, Hero calls $38

Turn: ($126.00) 8 (2 players)
BB bets $94.00, Hero calls $94

River: ($314.00) A (2 players)
BB bets $741.28, Hero ???

oppo knows i like to fold.. i dont want to jam flop... he has 21 of donkbet
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03-02-2012 , 06:49 PM
I want to call due to his flop sizing, i think if he had a set he would bomb it instead of 38$ in this v drawy board so basically only AK and 67 or bluffs, so i call
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03-02-2012 , 07:00 PM
21% donkbet? Not folding.
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03-02-2012 , 07:04 PM
nope, not folding.
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03-02-2012 , 07:30 PM
lol, easiest call of my life
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03-02-2012 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by IV.Geoffrey
I want to call due to his flop sizing, i think if he had a set he would bomb it instead of 38$ in this v drawy board so basically only AK and 67 or bluffs, so i call
lol how much would bombing be? 50 into 50? def no reads based on his sizing on the flop
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03-02-2012 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Gonira
lol, easiest call of my life
something like this v basically anyone without some additional reads
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03-02-2012 , 11:07 PM
Certainly not folding here given donk/donk/donk
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03-03-2012 , 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by b finkelstein
lol how much would bombing be? 50 into 50? def no reads based on his sizing on the flop
44-50 i know its a small difference but im sure it makes a difference and you can discount sets some % not entirely ofc.
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03-03-2012 , 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by IV.Geoffrey
44-50 i know its a small difference but im sure it makes a difference and you can discount sets some % not entirely ofc.
so ur saying if he donk with top pair or some kind draw he bet less, but if he flopped set he bet more on flop? only donks do that, 2-4 players should be better than this.
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03-03-2012 , 08:48 AM
being deep isn't this a close fold?
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03-03-2012 , 09:35 AM
We're not deep
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03-03-2012 , 11:35 AM
call but not happy about it
he's a nit so I am very scared but all draws missed.
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03-03-2012 , 12:09 PM
Looking at this again it seems UTG is a fish so he's going to be donking stronger hands here so that he doesnt have to check call against you with the fish behind. With that being said, I think you still have to call but I'm not pumped about it.
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03-03-2012 , 03:01 PM
Easy call played this way
I'll rr the flop
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03-03-2012 , 10:05 PM
i fold river. (but i reraise flop!)
i think BB has set, str8 (76), or FD (maybe another bluff or i realy didn't understand his line).
he donks 21%, so bet on flop and turn says nothing about his hand (or says little). lets tell about river.
Ace on river. We know BB isn't idiot and He knows you're not idiot too. Which hands you can have? You can have FD, set, TP what else? If your hand not so strong, you fold river even if he bet $200. Now i ask you - if you'd have AK on this river, would you fold it, and ask 2+2 for advice? I'm sure answer - NO, and i'm sure BB think so. It meants he didn't try to bluf your AK, it means he want get more money from your AK! So fold!
But sometimes he show you FD and smile)
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03-04-2012 , 05:01 AM
obv this belongs in BBV because there's no debate what to do on the river.
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03-04-2012 , 08:06 AM
Why is it such an easy call? Villian is tight and should have a perceived tight range OOP. He has far more nutted hands than draws and it makes perfect sense for him to donk this flop with his strong hands because of the fish in the pot.

Even if he has some KQ type hand he shouldn't shove river imo.
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03-04-2012 , 10:45 AM
all draws but 76s missed. river is a scary card, so he will probably barrel all of them. you can't fold against his range. i'm not that excited about calling too, but it's a pretty easy call imo regardless.
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03-04-2012 , 10:48 AM
"All draws"..

This guy is 17/14 after a significant sample. A guy like this isn't calling QJo/67s and whatever draw hands there is OOP.

Would be nice to see his CC% from the blinds
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03-04-2012 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenDragon
If your hand not so strong, you fold river even if he bet $200.
river bet size is not a factor here cos eff stacks are less than a psb. villain is deep, not hero.
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03-04-2012 , 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Back off Kiddo
This guy is 17/14 after a significant sample.
mehhhh. very important info that i ignored, i'm embarassed. his range will be very pocket pair heavy, now i think it's close :/

anyway, he donks too much and althought he won't be playing them pf that frequently, all kinds of suited broadways with clubs or spades make sense, still calling.
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03-04-2012 , 03:19 PM
lol snapcall /the end
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03-04-2012 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Gonira
mehhhh. very important info that i ignored, i'm embarassed. his range will be very pocket pair heavy, now i think it's close :/

anyway, he donks too much and althought he won't be playing them pf that frequently, all kinds of suited broadways with clubs or spades make sense, still calling.
That's because he has a tight calling range pre. Let's say his BB CC% is 6%, 21% out of that is 1.2% = extremely strong chit!
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03-04-2012 , 04:52 PM
His range is a little wider pre, due to the limping fish.
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